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Name: Romo1016
Date: January 5, 2004 at 01:23:09 Pacific
Subject: Do I need to upgrade sys ram to ddr
OS: xp
CPU/Ram: duron 1.2gig/384mb
Comment:

I have a duron processor, 1.2 gig, 384mb sdram, k7s5a board. Ati rage fury pro video card. I bought a Geforce fx 5200 plus pci video card. I get the no signal no boot, just spinning drives problem. I have set bios correctly and installed properly. If I put the ati back in it works fine... My question is, do I need to upgrade my board ram to ddr to match video card onboard ram?
I will have to buy it to try it so I am wondering if that is likely my problem...
by the way I tried removing the mainboard ram and using the ati card which i know works. the result mirrored the memory in and geforce card used, thats why I think I need different ram, but I don't really know.

please advise
Thanks, Romo1016


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Response Number 1
Name: Spinox
Date: January 5, 2004 at 02:01:32 Pacific
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It might help you, but not sure. Remove all hardware from PCI sockets except videocard and one ram modul. Disable AGP support in bios and try again. Notice you can't use SD/DDR-ram together, even if your MB have socket for them. Anyway, why did you bought a videocard with PCI, if your motherboard have socket for AGP videocards?
Return it if possible to dealer and get one with 4X AGP (Better choice)


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Response Number 2
Name: Romo1016
Date: January 5, 2004 at 05:26:08 Pacific
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tried that, no difference. I bought this card because it was on sale $50 off. The store guy said it was much better than what I had.

the pci card has onboard 128 mg ddr ram is this not compatible with a mainboard running with sdram,... does anyone know beyond an educated guesses?


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Response Number 3
Name: tropic
Date: January 5, 2004 at 05:47:05 Pacific
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As far as your motherboard is concerned, your video card could be running DODGE RAM--it's installed on your vid card, so that's the component that operates it.

You might check for a BIOS update... some chipsets have problems running the new Nvidia line without one.


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Response Number 4
Name: Free Weasel
Date: January 5, 2004 at 07:37:06 Pacific
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Do I understand that right, you have an AGP FX5200 and an additional pci video card ???

Remove all add on card except the fx5200 and reset the bios. Then boot again and the card should work!

I had that problem just a few weeks ago with 2 old boards. In one case it had been 2 pci graphic cards and in the other 2 agp cards.
In both problems the bios reset helped!


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Response Number 5
Name: Free Weasel
Date: January 5, 2004 at 07:39:44 Pacific
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Oh, forgot, changing to DDR Ram will not help I think.
If the reset doesn't help try slower cas settings for the ram an choose a lower AGP aperature size.


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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: January 5, 2004 at 08:56:33 Pacific
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Your system RAM (PC100/133 or DDR) has nothing to do with your video card. It's possible that the card you bought is bad...can you test it on another system?

Why would you waste your money on a PCI card when you have an AGP slot? If you got that card for $50 off, does that mean you paid $20? LOL! The FX5200/PCI version only sells for about $70 to begin with! You would be much better off if you take advantage of the AGP slot...how about a GF4 MX440? or the FX5200 AGP version? They both sell for less than $60 & are about equal in performance.


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Response Number 7
Name: Romo1016
Date: January 5, 2004 at 14:09:18 Pacific
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Thanks for the clarification on the ram... you all saved me money! I have a new question though, what is pci 2.0? the card requires pci2.0 slot my board manual doesn't mention any particular pci slot version, and I cannot find that information at the ecs website.... could this be my new problem? I will try updating bios, I do know how to do that at least. thanks for all the help. If this doesn't work I will exchange for agp card version


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: January 6, 2004 at 08:24:18 Pacific
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PCI is much slower...it runs at 33mhz...AGP (Accelerated Graphics Port) is designed for high speed video & runs at 66mhz. Why would you even consider running a PCI card?

If you wanna take the time, here's some old info on PCI revisions 2.0 & 2.1...I think we're currently at 2.3, & PCI-X is just around the corner:

http://www.os2forum.or.at/english/info/os2hardwareinfo/pci_faq.html


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