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disk error, no post, after HD wipe

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Name: t-bone
Date: September 4, 2007 at 11:31:54 Pacific
OS: win 2000
CPU/Ram: 600/256
Product: asus
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I used wipe.exe to wipe off a hard drive, it was a compaq presario 5441 with WIN 98. I wanted to use this computer as an RIS client to install Win 2000 or WinXP. After the wipe I can not get into the bios, its like the system is ignoring the keyboards commands. The computer does not show the startup information on the screen, such as bios manuf, amount of RAM and all that other crap, it just goes straight to a black screen saying "disk error, insert system disk and press return".
When i start the computer up with a dos bootdisk in it, the date/time prompt comes up and when i press enter, there is no response. When i put in the wipe.exe floppy disk and go to do another wipe, the commands from the keyboard are getting no response.
I have tried 2-3 keyboards, all keyboards work on other systems, so i know its not a keyboard problem.



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Response Number 1
Name: kx5m2g
Date: September 4, 2007 at 12:16:27 Pacific
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Are they all USB keyboards ? If yes, maybe you should try a PS2 keyboard.


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Response Number 2
Name: aegis
Date: September 4, 2007 at 12:57:30 Pacific
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Compaq systems have part of the bios code in a hidden partition on the hard drive. If you go to the Compaq/HP web site, you should be able to download a utility to restore it.


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Response Number 3
Name: worldlibrary
Date: September 4, 2007 at 13:12:28 Pacific
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Well if you wiped the os off the hard disk it does stand to reason that a few functions are no longer work.


As stated above...bet the ps2 is default.

Was the dos boot disk a pure dos disk (dos6.2)or a win98 boot disk.

The win98 should have drivers to get you going, and you can install the new os using it.

Once all drivers are loaded cd to i386 on your installation cd and type in winnt.exe

w.l.


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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: September 4, 2007 at 15:17:24 Pacific
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As aegis said, when you wiped the HDD, you wiped out the BIOS. If you would have used the Win2K or WinXP to format the drive, that probably wouldn't have happened.

Do as aegis suggested.


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Response Number 5
Name: larryf215
Date: September 4, 2007 at 15:22:19 Pacific
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what is wipe.exe? why not just format the c drive?

larry


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Response Number 6
Name: worldlibrary
Date: September 4, 2007 at 17:10:20 Pacific
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Just wondering??? How did wipe also take out a hidden partition?.

It was a command line program. IE: wipe drive letter then ( parameters) Has it gone gui?

Had the program years ago, but it seemed to unforgiving. I could just see trying to take out a dir and end up doing the entire drive.

Wipe deletes a file then overwrites it with zeros. As far as I know there is no recovery.

T-BONE .... keep us updated.

w.l.


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Response Number 7
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 4, 2007 at 20:40:41 Pacific
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That compaq should have a rom-based setup and not depend on the separate hard drive partition. There may be (or have been) a separate non-dos partition but it would have contained diagnostic utilities. Or a second dos partition on the drive may have had restore files. Even if those partitions are gone it shouldn't affect the ability to get into setup. Neither should it prevent a successful floppy boot.

If your floppy is prompting you for the date and time it's probably an older pre-windows version, unless you added those commands to autoexec.bat. I suggest you create a new win98 bootdisk and use that.

If it still locks up, open the case and disconnect the hard drive(s). Then try booting. It may hang for a minute or two while it searches for the missing drive but should eventually give a message about a hardware change. If you finally get a successful boot that way then there must be a drive problem.

It's possible this wipe.exe damaged the drive so more info on that file would be helpful.


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Response Number 8
Name: t-bone
Date: September 4, 2007 at 21:27:11 Pacific
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all the keyboards I have used are ps2. The wipe program I use just gets me to a prompt and i enter a:> wipe 0 then yes, then it does its job. I have used this wipe program many times before on other computers and never had encountered this problem. I also performed it on another compaq, a compaq presario 5240 and this problem never happened.
I am using a dos 6.22 boot disk, and before it installs dos it asks me to put in the correct date and time, in the past i was able to press 'enter' at this point but on this time 'enter' is not being processed. If i put in the Win2000Pro setup boot disks, after disk1 is done it asks me to put in dis2 and press enter, after putting in disk2 and and pressing 'enter', 'enter' is not being processed.
I think I am going to first try the Win98 boot disk. If that doesn't work I will then try what aegis said, go to compaq site and try to find the utility to restore the bios.


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Response Number 9
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 5, 2007 at 00:05:07 Pacific
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The 'wipe 0' command sounds like it wiped the entire drive and not just one partition. I think it's an IBM utility.

There could be a problem with the floppy bootdisk or floppy drive that is causing the boot problem. Nothing you've done should prevent booting from a floppy.

Here's the download page for that model:

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...

There is no F10 setup utility (the one that installs the setup partition on the drive). Compaq is kind of sloppy about listing their downloads but when no F10 setup shows then generally it's not needed--meaning it's rom-based. No rompaq (compaq's name for a bios upgrade) downloads show either.

You might also check for a 'clear cmos' jumper on the motherboard. Jump it, turn on the PC for a few seconds, turn if off and replace the jumper in the standby position. Then reboot. You should get a hardware change message and an option to enter setup.


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Response Number 10
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 5, 2007 at 00:57:07 Pacific
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Here's a download for it (assuming it's the IBM utility):

http://server.oersted.dtu.dk/ftp/da...

if anyone else wants to take a look at it.


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Response Number 11
Name: t-bone
Date: September 8, 2007 at 10:38:31 Pacific
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i have tried other hard drives, the same thing, 'disk error, insert system disk and press return', when i press return nothing happens.
When i put in the dos 6.22 boot disk, once it gets to the set date/time press return, when i press return nothing happens.
I have never had a problem with a computer like this before, i always used the wipe.exe on computers before i install a new OS on it.
The information that comes on the screen when you start a computer, like the bios version, master/slave drives and all that other information, usually all that info stays on the screen for 7-8 seconds, but now it just quickly appears and dissapears, then the red compaq logo, then a black screen with a blinking cursor on the top left of the screen, then the 'disk error, insert system disk and press return' screen.
Keyboard input is not working. Compaq wrote me and said that the whole bios is on the ROM chip (someone told me part of the bios was on the hard drive).
When i tried a different hard drive, this hard drive happened to have Win2000Pro on it, it started booting up to it, then went to the blue screen of death, with a message about the hard drive. I tried different IDE cables on the hard drive, removed the battery for a few hours.


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Response Number 12
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 8, 2007 at 13:06:34 Pacific
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With no HD or wiped HD and no bootdisk then boot error is to be expected. I still think the floppy drive or 6.22 disk may be bad. I've had them hang halfway when booting.

The error when booting 2K may be simply the drive being in a different computer, depending on the error message.


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Response Number 13
Name: t-bone
Date: September 9, 2007 at 17:42:45 Pacific
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if the floppy drive was bad why is it reading all the boot disks i put in? (I don't think the floppy is bad) When its time to press enter, the command is not being processed. I have used the 6.22 disk, wipe.exe disk, killdisk.exe, and setup disk for Win2000Pro disk 1, everytime that i prompted to use the keyboard to enter, the keyboard is not being recognized.
The screen that shows all the bios version and other information when you start a computer is simply appearing and dissapearing in less than a second, usually this screen is show for about 7-9 seconds.
What could be causing the keyboard to not be responsive when i press enter when i use one of the boot disks i use??
can i flash the bios with no operating system installed?
could it be bad RAM?


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Response Number 14
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 9, 2007 at 22:31:17 Pacific
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Without it sitting in front of me I can only speculate. If it skips through the posting screen too fast it may be ignoring the drive detection phase, possibly because they're set to NONE. Or maybe cmos was set to a quick post which, well, would be quicker.

It could be a some undetermined hardware problem. Compaq's will often take a minute or two to post the error. During that time your KB will not respond. How long does it hang?

I don't believe you posted back what happens when no hard drive is attached. You may have to reboot once or twice so the bios know there's no hard drive.

And please, make a brand new windows 98 bootdisk and use it.


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Response Number 15
Name: t-bone
Date: September 11, 2007 at 19:44:38 Pacific
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I have this problem on 2 computers. One one of them the keyboard started to work, so I used the Win2000Pro boot disk, all went well, the 4 disk went through there process, and I was then asked to put in the Win2000Pro cd and press 'enter'. After 'enter' the system rebooted and then came to the screen that said 'disk boot error, insert system disk and press enter'. What the F_CK is going on?
What will a Win98 bootdisk do?
Will I need Win98 cd?


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Response Number 16
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 11, 2007 at 20:50:08 Pacific
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98 would be better than 6.22 when fiddling with the 4 gig drive that PC probably has. It probably wouldn't help in starting a 2K installation but its utilities may show a problem with the drive as I'm not familiar with 2K.

You wouldn't need the 98 cd unless you planned on installing 98. If you don't have a 98 machine running you can download a bootdisk file from a place like bootdisk.com.

The boot error may mean it was trying to boot from other than the intended drive. You need to check the boot order in setup (F10) if you can get to it.

Most bios', when the cdrom is first and the HD is second in the boot order, will ask which you want to boot from when a bootable cd is detected. Several compaqs I've worked on don't do that. If the cd is first it'll always boot from the cd. This causes problems doing an installation after a cd boot since subsequent boots during the installation will be from the cdrom instead of the hard drive. I don't think that's your problem but be aware of it.

If the KB locking is no longer a problem, the 98 disk is probably not necessary and you can just use the 2K disks.


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Response Number 17
Name: t-bone
Date: September 12, 2007 at 07:49:00 Pacific
Reply:

On the one computer with the Win2000Pro installation that stopped after I put in the cd to finish the installation, I pulled out the hard drive, looked at the jumper setting and it was set at master (pins 5-6). I then removed that jumper setting and set it to pins 4-6 (it said on the drive that this was how the jumper was default set at). Then I started the computer and it started to finish the Win2000Pro installation that I started earlier!!! so I quickly put the W2K cd back in the cd-rom. (And also at boot up i saw that the Detecting Primary IDE Master was detected on the POST screen instead of NONE detected)
Why did the hard drive not get detected when I had the jumper set at Master?

Now for this computer the problem is resolved, I still have the same problem with the presario 5441, maybe I should double check its hard drived jumper setting.


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Response Number 18
Name: kx5m2g
Date: September 12, 2007 at 08:36:18 Pacific
Reply:

"Why did the hard drive not get detected when I had the jumper set at Master?"
The master was expecting a slave and there was no slave ?


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Response Number 19
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: September 12, 2007 at 18:49:53 Pacific
Reply:

Was it a western digital? For most of those, SINGLE--that is one drive on the cable--is no jumper. It'd be jumpered as MASTER only if there's a second drive on the cable.


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