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Name: XpUser
Date: August 31, 2006 at 08:38:27 Pacific
Subject: Disconnecting USB External HD
OS: XP Home & PRO All SP2
CPU/Ram: 2.02GHz/512RAM
Comment:


Needless to say, most external USB HD (with ide drive not usb drive in it) is sold with a power adapter.

I know you are supposed to first connect the Adapter-USB cable then the Adapter-power source cable.

I wonder what harm can it do if you disconnect the USB HD by unplugging the Adapter-USB cable rather than the Adapter-Power cable.

My neighbor complains that it is pain for her to have to bend down to reach the power strip located in the back of her bulky desk. She wants to know why it has to be the way the manufacturer told her.

TIA

i_XpUser


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Response Number 1
Name: johnr
Date: August 31, 2006 at 09:24:47 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Hmmm... I can't see any reason why the order of unplugging makes any difference. My back-up drive is permanently plugged into the mains & I tend to turn it on (to let it 'settle') before plugging in the USB connector & I've never had any problems (though I don't think I've read the 'manual' that came with it either!!!!). Surely USB, being a bit of a 'catch-all' system of connecting, would not register any difference between the appliance of power as opposed to the insertion of the USB cable? - it just relies on a received signal, whatever instigated it.

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Response Number 2
Name: ham30
Date: August 31, 2006 at 09:57:22 Pacific
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I always plugged the USB last and unplugged it first and never had any problems. Of course I always notified the system before unplugging.

Where is that notice to do it the other way?

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Response Number 3
Name: XpUser
Date: August 31, 2006 at 10:11:09 Pacific
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Thanks guys..

ham - that's the way the manual (page 2 "Disconnecting the Drive" - article is PDF) told her to do.

The quiz here is are there any harm to just pull out the USB cable from the drive (of course after she "safely remove" it)?.


i_XpUser


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Response Number 4
Name: ham30
Date: August 31, 2006 at 11:08:09 Pacific
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That link didn't point to a manual, XpUser.

But all other USB devices can be disconnected by removing the USB cable, I don't see why a hard drive should be any different. I suspect that her manual is in error.

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Response Number 5
Name: ham30
Date: August 31, 2006 at 11:15:16 Pacific
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To me connecting the power when the drive is already connected might tend to cause problems rather than the other way around. I wonder if she read it wrong.

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Response Number 6
Name: OtheHill
Date: August 31, 2006 at 11:37:15 Pacific
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Doesn't the case have a power switch on it? Mine does. I have seen many posts here with USb drive file corruption. I think folks simply pull the plug without safely removing the device first. I simply safely remove and then shut off the power switch, leaving both cables connected.


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Response Number 7
Name: XpUser
Date: August 31, 2006 at 12:54:14 Pacific
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The HD is Maxtor Basics 200GB. There is no power switch on the HD.

I suggested to her that she (1) stick with the order of disconnect to avoid any problem, and (2) purchase another power strip to ease shutting off the power to the HD without having to bend down behind the heavy desk.


i_XpUser


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Response Number 8
Name: Sabertooth
Date: September 1, 2006 at 07:42:54 Pacific
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My external USB/Firewire caddie also has a power switch at the back, and all I do is switch it off when I'm not accessing the disk for an extended period of time, I very seldom yank the firewire plug.

And when I do yank it, I don't go through the "safe removal" rigmarole either, but I woiuld recommend configuring the disk for "write caching" so that it is optimized for unsafe removal at any time.


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Response Number 9
Name: XpUser
Date: September 1, 2006 at 09:27:14 Pacific
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Good idea - thanks. Curious - did you build the caddy yourself? If not what brand/model is it that has its own power switch on the back?

i_XpUser


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Response Number 10
Name: OtheHill
Date: September 1, 2006 at 10:25:44 Pacific
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Sabertooth, the reason for the safe removal icon is so that if the external drive is in the process of writing you won't disconnect prematurely.


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Response Number 11
Name: XpUser
Date: September 1, 2006 at 10:51:54 Pacific
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Yes axactly..that's what it was designed to do - sort of warn you. A drive prematurely disconnected often produce corrupted drive or RAW drive that is difficult if not impossible to correct.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 12
Name: Sabertooth
Date: September 2, 2006 at 14:20:38 Pacific
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Hey XpUser,

Sorry I never got back until now, the caddie is a no name el-cheapo from fleabay & ofcourse it didn't come with the disk.


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Response Number 13
Name: XpUser
Date: September 4, 2006 at 12:16:09 Pacific
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Thanks Saber :-)

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