Determining if my Mobo supports AM2+.

January 24, 2011 at 14:20:52
Specs: Windows XP Professional, Athlon X2 250/PC2-6400 (400MHZ) 2 Gigs of Mem
I plan on getting a GTX 460 and i hear that there is possible bottle necking with duel cores which is what i have (Athlon X2 250), so i was looking to get a new Quad Core CPU but found out that only AM2+/AM3 Mobos support Quad CPU's, anyways some sites say that my mobo is only AM2 and some say its AM2+ i really need help verifying that if my Mobo can support AM2+.

Here are 3 screen-shots from CPU-Z ( CPU, Main board, and Cache )-

http://img683.imageshack.us/i/cpuin...
http://img510.imageshack.us/i/mainb...
http://img40.imageshack.us/i/cachei...

Thanks, also when you search my mobo on newegg (K9A2GM V3) it shows a -F which i don't think i have, not sure.....=)


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#1
January 24, 2011 at 14:31:06
http://www.motherboardpro.com/MSI-K...

According to this, it does support AM2+. Your cpu is ok for most games. If you want a gtx 460, make sure your psu can handle it.

http://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?t...


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#2
January 24, 2011 at 14:49:05
Thanks, still waiting for more confirmation and my PSU should be fine for the GTX 460 its 500W.

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#3
January 24, 2011 at 14:51:26
Your CPU will handle the job. Very few games can take advantage of a Quad, you'd just be wasting your money. It's not like the 250 is a weak CPU. As stated by grasshopper, make sure you have an adequate power supply.

I'm curious about your screenshots - what are you still running IE6 & why isn't Quick Launch enabled??


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#4
January 24, 2011 at 15:00:54
Would 500W be good enough for a GTX 460, and yes i have IE 6.0 but i use Firefox and what is quick launch..?

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#5
January 24, 2011 at 15:07:08
"Would 500W be good enough for a GTX 460"

Just asking about wattage doesn't mean much. Amperage is what's important. It's best to get a PSU that has a single +12v rail rated at 30A or higher, it should have active PFC (Power Factor Correction), 80 Plus certified & a decent warranty (3 yrs or better).

"yes i have IE 6.0 but i use Firefox and what is quick launch"

It would still be best to get IE8 & keep your system fully updated. Is this a fresh install of XP? The arrow points to Quick Launch:

http://i.techrepublic.com.com/blogs...

BTW, do you realize that the Athlon II X2 250 is an AM3 CPU?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#6
January 24, 2011 at 17:49:47
Is there any surefire way to tell if it's AM2+ like on the actual mobo, because i don't want to buy a new CPU and find out it doesn't work on this, and i took off my case and wrote everything down on my PSU...so will this suffice for a GTX 460?

Model: PSiV-500-2 (ATX)
AC Input: 115/230v, 8/4a, 50-60Hz

Output
500W/Max

+3.3V
32A

+5v
47A

+12v
22A

-5v
0.5a

-12v
1.0a

+5vsb
2.5a

+3.3 & 5v Combinee load : 230w
+3.3, 5v & +12v Combinee load : 475


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#7
January 24, 2011 at 18:35:21
You don't need a new CPU, you'll just be wasting your money. What you need is a decent power supply. The one you have is NOT gonna cut it. Look at the specs - way too many amps on the +3.3v & +5v rails, not enough on the +12v. Plus the wattage is way overrated. It's about a 350W unit.

As for your motherboard, it's listed as an AM2 board but also supports AM2+ & AM3 CPUs. Like I said in response # 5, your current CPU, the Athlon II X2 250, is an AM3. However (& this is VERY important), your board only supports CPUs rated up to 65W. Read it & weep:

http://www.msi.com/product/mb/K9A2G...

No quad for you!


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#8
January 24, 2011 at 19:03:01
Thanks, I'm going to be buying the GTX 460 and PSU in a couple days, what if i did use this s---ty PSU what would happen, fast overheating? And would a really good PSU like 800W increase system performance?

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#9
January 24, 2011 at 19:20:30
"what if i did use this s---ty PSU what would happen"

Worst case scenario - the PSU will become overloaded & blow, taking out the motherboard, CPU & video card along with it.

"And would a really good PSU like 800W increase system performance?"

A higher wattage PSU will NOT make a system run faster. You do NOT need an 800W unit anyway. You can easily get by with a 400-500W unit, but it has to be a good one. That means a reputable brand name (Antec, Cooler Master, Corsair, OCZ, Thermaltake, to name a few). I already mentioned most of this stuff but it should have a single +12v rail of 30A or more. The +3.3v & +5v should be no more than 25A. It should have active PFC (power factor correction), be 80 plus certified & have a decent warranty.

Here's 2 to consider:

Antec 520W PSU

Corsair 430W PSU

The Corsair has 28A on the +12v which is slightly less than I suggested, but it's received a JonnyGuru Recommendation. Who am I to argue with the G man? He is the king of power supply testers! Here's his review of the Corsair:

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.ph...


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#10
January 24, 2011 at 19:40:51
Last Question, the store i plan on buying this stuff from has alot of OCZ PSU's (which are a bargain price) and on every one of them the single 12+ rail is less then 30 the rest is fine, what do you think,

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...


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#11
January 24, 2011 at 20:08:24
Those PSUs don't have a single +12v rail, that have TWO +12v rails, so actually, they have considerably more than 30A. However, you will need to "hand balance" the loading when you connect your devices.

http://www.playtool.com/pages/psumu...


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#12
January 24, 2011 at 20:20:56
I don't understand this "hand balancing" do they tell you this when you buy it or in the Manuel ?

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#13
January 25, 2011 at 06:11:00
Did you read the article in my last response? It's all explained, that's why I put it there.

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