Desperate need Phoenix BIOS 6.1

Compaq Presario
April 19, 2006 at 05:34:03
Specs: win98, 233 /128

Hello, I am looking for Phoenix BIOS 4.0 Release 6.1, to flash my actual 6.0 version.
Tried on the Phoenix site, also on the Driverguide , no way to find.Thank you (@_@)


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#1
April 19, 2006 at 05:50:03

The BIOS you are looking for should come from Compaq and not Phoenix.

Why do you "need" to flash your BIOS?


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#2
April 19, 2006 at 06:31:07

Response 1,and the fact you posted{Desperate need Phoenix BIOS 6.1}should
make you very weary of flashing your bios.

No wise remark intended.


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#3
April 19, 2006 at 08:32:01

What problem are you having? Most of the time when someone thinks they need to flash their bios, doing so will not help with the problem they are experiencing.
You are taking a big risk when you flash your bios - if the flash fails, and/or the flash chip physically fails while flashing (this is COMMON - these cheap flash chips can only be flashed an unpredictable small number of times), you will have a mboard that will not boot.

Phoenix BIOS 4.0 Release 6.1 is the "overall" bios version. You cannot change the "overall" bios version from 6.0.
What you need is the specific bios version - the "overall" bios version is a software framework that is modified by or for mboard manufacturers to suit a particular mboard with its particular chipset and other chips.
When you flash a bios, you are flashing the specific bios version with a newer (or the same, or an older) version that has the mostly the same input/output programming information for your particular mboard encoded in it - newer versions have mostly bug fixes for what was incorrect or not supported in earlier versions, and they incorporate all older previous fixes.
HP ( which also supports Compaq ) should have the latest available bios update for your model - they call it a Rompaq, and Compaq's Rompaq flash utility flashes the bios in an oddball way.
You need to look up support for your model on the HP site - you may need to search using the specific model number on a label on the case, not just the model that may be obvious on the front of the case.
When you find the software for your particular model, HP does not always list the Rompaq for all operating systems - if that is the case, chose another operating system - the Rompaq is not operating system specific.
If you need help to find the Rompaq, tell us your specific model number.
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Some mboards have a jumper that must be in the right position when you flash your bios.
If you flash with it in the wrong position, your flash will fail, and in some cases you can end up with an empty bios.
Check your mboard manual to see if you have such a jumper!! If you don't have a manual get one! If you need help to find a manual, tell us your specific model number.
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With some bioses, if you are using bios passwords, you should REMOVE them before you flash or the flash may fail. Because of that, it is a good idea to always do this BEFORE you flash.
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Make sure the floppy you use is error free!

I recommend you use Windows to prepare your flash floppy using FULL format. FULL format (RIGHT click on A: to find Format) is slower, but will find and exclude from use any previously undetected bad sectors on a floppy, a common problem these days.
If you choose to format in Dos (or Win XP), DO NOT use the Quick format switch, for the same reason.
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#4
April 20, 2006 at 05:45:24

Hello, I've decided to upgrade the BIOS, since the Motherboard has only one slot for RAM wich recognize only 64 Mb of a 128 RAM i pugged-in.
The exact Mobo name is
PWA-Titan R Motherboard ASSY 4116927000 R

Thank you Tubes and wires for the precautions.Although i've already flashed a few PC s I was unaware of some things.
Very good point, Badboy. Thanks.I'll post back. (@_@)


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#5
April 20, 2006 at 06:56:16

"I've decided to upgrade the BIOS, since the Motherboard has only one slot for RAM wich recognize only 64 Mb of a 128 RAM i pugged-in."

Flashing the bios will NOT fix that problem!
Do not flash your bios for that reason!
You are trying to use ram that is not compatable with that mboard!

Every mboard has ram that is compatible with it, and other ram that you would think should work in it but it is not compatible with that mboard, and it either is not recognized properly (e.g. as half its actual size), it does not work in that mboard properly (produces data errors), or in the worst cases the mboard will not boot if it is installed. Compatibility has to do mostly with which chipset the mboard uses, how that chipset is wired to the mboard, and which configurations of ram modules those two things allow the ram to be recognized properly - there's a 99.9% chance you cannot change which ram the mboard can recognize with a bios update.

You can look up which ram modules will work for sure in your mboard by going to the web sites of many major memory module makers or distributors, by using your mboard make and model or the model number of your brand name system, or at some sites they can scan your mboard and tell you which ram will work in it. If you have brand name modules, you can often look up which mboards the ram will work in by using the ID string on the module.

e.g.
www.kingston.com
www.crucial.com
www.corsair.com
www.muskin.net

www.memorygiant.com - brands are not specified, but they are guaranteed to work.

If you have generic modules, or you randomly try ram modules, whether the ram will work in a particular mboard is a crap shoot.
E.g. for a mboard of the age yours is, the mboard will often not recognize ram modules that have 4 chip 128mb ram modules, but it will often recognize ones that have 8 chips, or possibly 16 chips (8 on each side) just fine.
If you have other modules you can try, or if you can swap modules with those in a newer mboard (e.g. which may recognize 4 chip 128mb modules fine) try that.



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#6
April 20, 2006 at 07:11:23

What is the Compaq model number of this computer?

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#7
April 20, 2006 at 09:53:43

There are three Titan mboards, and two revisions of one of them. You may need to ignore what is printed on the mboard itself.
Compaq places a sticker on the mboard near it's center -
TITAN R, TITAN II, or TITAN M

TITAN R - Socket 7, i430VX, 1 DIMM - part number 317219-001 - Upgradeable to 48MB Maximum
16MB onboard
http://www.ctechinfo.org/model/OEM/titanr.html

16 chip module shown; it doesn't necessarily have to be 66mhz (e.g. PC66 SDRam) or 60ns as long as it's at least that; 8 chip may work too:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=278067-001

Picture
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=317219-001

Plug in 317219-001 here to see the models it was used in:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/main
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TITAN II - Slot 1, i440LX, 2 DIMM - part number 311009-001 - max memory 256mb (2 - 128mb, 8 chip)

Picture here:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=311009-001

Plug in 311009-001 here to see the models it was used in:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/main
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TITAN M - Socket 7, Intel chipset, 1 DIMM - part numbers 327149-001, 327149-002 - 16mb ram onboard, 327149-001 will take a max of a 32mb module in the ram slot, unknown what 327149-002 will take in the ram slot - it is probably the same.
16 chip module shown; it doesn't necessarily have to be 66mhz (e.g. PC66 SDRam) or 60ns as long as it's at least that; 8 chip may work too:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=278066-001

Video:
Integrated into the Chipset
For -001: 2MB VRAM ?
For -002: 1MB VRAM ?
http://www.ctechinfo.org/model/OEM/titanm.html

Picture here; same for both numbers:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=327149-001

Plug in 327149-001, or 327149-002, here to see the models it was used in:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/main
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327149-001 (TITAN M) and 311009-001 (TITAN II)
Manual here - part numbers, jumpers, crude mboard diagram, ram specs.
This is older info that was never updated after HP took over Compaq.
get presario2200_4200.pdf
ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/supportinformation/consumerdocs/Consumer_QRG/


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#8
April 20, 2006 at 10:15:32

Same goes for TITAN II:

16 chip module shown; it doesn't necessarily have to be 66mhz (e.g. PC66 SDRam) or 60ns as long as it's at least that; 8 chip may work too:
http://partsurfer.hp.com/cgi-bin/spi/showphoto?partnumber=278067-001



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#9
April 20, 2006 at 10:30:59

TITAN R and TITAN M even with the maximum ram would be slower than a crippled turtle in molasses in XP if they work at all in it, and would also be very slow In Win 98/98SE/ME. They would work best with Win 95, or Dos/Win 3.1.

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#10
April 20, 2006 at 15:23:46

Ok then, I won’t flash anymore the Bios, thx God.
Wow, Tubes, thank you for the Incredible documentation you have provided.

Badboy, this is a Compaq Presario 4540

I didn’t quite found the 4540 but the 4500 manual on the ftp you listed,
But the most important is the Ram problem.
-32MB,” it doesn't necessarily have to be 66mhz”,

Since I have only 1 slot ,there is no chance to use a 64Mb pc 100 ?

Thanks a lot Tubesandwires, you are one of the best I’ve met on this site. (@_@)


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#11
April 20, 2006 at 20:44:37

http://h20000.www2.hp.com/bizsupport/TechSupport/SoftwareDescription.jsp?lang=en&cc=us&prodTypeId=12454&prodSeriesId=96376&prodNameId=98334&swEnvOID=20&swLang=8&mode=2&taskId=135&swItem=33921

will take you to the page to download the ROMPaq (BIOS) for this computer.


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#12
April 20, 2006 at 20:47:57

http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/genericDocument?cc=us&docname=c00191404&lc=en&jumpid=reg_R1002_USEN

This link suggests that your max memory is 48MB.

Good luck.


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#13
April 21, 2006 at 01:00:04

"Since I have only 1 slot ,there is no chance to use a 64Mb pc 100 ?"

You are probably limited to adding 32mb in that slot, max, for a total of 48mb. PC100 is more likely to work than PC133. See the very end of this for examples of which modules worked for some 440LX chipset 66mhz mboards:
http://www.lanyoncomputers.com.au/corner/threadview.jsp?post=6191&thread=3989


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