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Name: Nick R (by Nick Ritchie)
Date: August 5, 2006 at 06:56:28 Pacific
Subject: Dell purcase complete !
OS: WinXP Media Center
CPU/Ram: P42.8Gig Dual Core Proces
Model/Manufacturer: Dell XPS 400
Comment:

Frist of all for those fimila with the probs I was hav9ing with my old WinMe system are all fixed without a format and reinstall ,by upgrading my broweser to 6.0SP1 ,it took care of th problems I was having . Jam ,I just now read the private message you sent me on 7/16 ,and if we where to meet face to fce ,I would not react kindly to your name calling anyone can talk like that over the internet,its a coward move ,thats about all Iam going to say on that ! On my new Dell heres a post I made and copied >
Well I sure dont feel to happy that some of you think I made a mistake going with Dell ,howevr the link to the graphics card an ATI PCI-Xpress 128M.B.seemed to give it pretty good overall rating ? Wih the PC having ! 1 Gig of DDR Mem at 533MHZx2 and a P4 Dual Core Processore ,I dbelieve this will ber a big jump for me and I was assured it had exadability ability and I did not have to use Dell parts if I was to upgrade later on down the road ? I did some comparing to other OEM's and the Dell had pretty high ratings ,unless you are talking a high end gaming system like Allienware. I was not going for a gaming system I have a Plat Station 2 and a Game cube for my kids I mostly wnated something that would give me good DVD burning abiity and CD-R also the dual drives should take care of that the DVD+/-RW should cover all formats and the software package Roxio at $79 added cost seemed fair and the same price I see it for at Best Buy ! I recieved the 944 Dell printer yesterday .However I stil havent unboxed the system and set it up ,I dont have new desk for it yest Iam going to get the TV Wonder and install that myself. I was going to just go with the USB Edition like I've been using with my old system ,however for quality a TV card would be better if I decided to copy a show onto the 250 Sata 7200rpm hard drive ! Over all I feel pretty good about the cost under $1,500 ! In every OEM some say they have bad exprience and some say the complete opposite well it looks like Iam about to find out ? I know one thing the 4 year in home service warranty ! When I open the box and get all the documentation any futher specs such as motherboard etc I will post back with more info ! Thanks to all even the nay sayers about purchasing a Dell!
Thanks to All, Nick


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Response Number 1
Name: Nick R (by Nick Ritchie)
Date: August 5, 2006 at 06:59:32 Pacific
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Again apoligize for typos !
Nick


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Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: August 5, 2006 at 08:26:35 Pacific
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"Jam ,I just now read the private message you sent me on 7/16 ,and if we where to meet face to fce ,I would not react kindly to your name calling anyone can talk like that over the internet,its a coward move"

Unfortunately, sending you a message on the internet is all I can do...but I would you said the exact same things to you face-to-face. As for your veiled threat, I may be a computer geek, but I'm also a a 6'-0, 250lb construction worker / biker...& even though I'm older than you, I think I'd be able to handle anything you could dish out.

"the link to the graphics card an ATI PCI-Xpress 128M.B.seemed to give it pretty good overall rating ?"

And what link would that be...one supplied buy Dell or ATI? Do you think they would rate products they're trying to sell poorly? Try looking at this independent review...scroll down to page 5:

http://www.behardware.com/art/imprimer/579/

"the software package Roxio at $79 added cost seemed fair and the same price I see it for at Best Buy !"

Generally it's free...it comes packaged with a new burner. And a burner w/software costs considerably less than $79.


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Response Number 3
Name: XpUser
Date: August 5, 2006 at 09:06:30 Pacific
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Correction...

I'm also a a 6'-0, 250lb construction worker / biker...

should have been written

I'm also a a 6'-0, 250lb construction worker / tattooed biker and senior member of Hells Angels.

(Couldn't resist)

i_XpUser


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Response Number 4
Name: XpUser4Real
Date: August 5, 2006 at 10:05:25 Pacific
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What is all this trash about? Grow up...

Hopefully my advice will help you...Please post back with your results....thanks


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Response Number 5
Name: jboy
Date: August 5, 2006 at 11:02:36 Pacific
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Nick keeps posting just to show us how computer (& English) challenged he really is.

Add my name to the growing list of folks you'd better hope to never meet in real life, kid.

Saying that XP is the most stable MS OS is like saying that asparagus is the most articulate vegetable


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Response Number 6
Name: Derek
Date: August 5, 2006 at 15:32:12 Pacific
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So what's the question?

DerekW


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Response Number 7
Name: jam
Date: August 5, 2006 at 16:07:06 Pacific
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There is no question as far as I can tell. Nick just wants us to know that he bought a new Dell & that contrary to what some people may have told him, he thinks he made a wise decision.

But more than that, I think he's giving us a "heads up" that he'll soon be posting questions in both the Hardware & WinXP forums, instead of the WinME forum...lol


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Response Number 8
Name: chrisman7 (by chrisman.7)
Date: August 5, 2006 at 18:13:48 Pacific
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I did not have to use Dell parts if I was to upgrade later on down the road ?


If you want to upgrade or replace the main board you will have to use dell parts
or change the case

Dell uses a sled
and the holes in the main board are specific to the sled not the case

Dell does have a good service plan if you don't want to be able to work on it yourself for a while
if you have a problem the techs will be out the next day
or depending on how much you spend on the service plan
within 4 to 8 hrs from the time you call support

can you tell I am a dell tech?


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Response Number 9
Name: chrisman7 (by chrisman.7)
Date: August 5, 2006 at 18:58:01 Pacific
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Also
is there such a thing as a virtual boxing ring?


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Response Number 10
Name: GX1 Man
Date: August 6, 2006 at 00:40:39 Pacific
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I'll take Jam and 6 points.


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Response Number 11
Name: Nick R (by Nick Ritchie)
Date: August 6, 2006 at 05:33:15 Pacific
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Iam sure drilling holes to line them up with a differant motherboard would take a road scholar to figure out ! For every problem there is a resolution !
NF


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Response Number 12
Name: Nick R (by Nick Ritchie)
Date: August 6, 2006 at 05:41:16 Pacific
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Review writen bty BisnessWeek Magazine ,one of many positive reviews on the quality of Dell products ,now their customer service is another story ,its taking a very negative turn ,however that does not concern me ,I have you guys ! FYI GX1 Man ,that one bad bet your taking ,get your $ out !

Dell's High-End Home Run
No mere beige box, the dual-core XPS 400 proves that you get what you pay for -- in this case, sizzling performance. All it lacks is an AMD chip


Time was when the best thing a computer company could do was lower prices. Moore's Law -- which states that chips double in power even as prices drop by half every 18 months -- made that easy. Lower prices put personal computers into the hands of the masses, which, in turn, led to the whole world, hip and otherwise, plugging into the Net.

In the late 1990s a two-PC home was uncommon. Now a three- or four-PC home is unremarkable, thanks to inexpensive commodity PCs. And no company is more widely associated with the commodity PC than Dell (DELL ), which has relentlessly pushed down costs and prices, forcing rivals to respond in kind. While boosting the volume and frequency with which consumers can buy computers, this process also sapped profit margins.

Solving this problem is one of the motivations behind Dell's XPS line of high-end computers. For years a cadre of computer buyers has demanded more performance than the typical beige box delivers, whether for gaming or producing high-quality digital home videos. As I noted in a recent review, some custom-PC companies do a small-but-booming business selling high-priced premium machines to this tech-savvy audience (see BW Online, 2/9/06, "A Custom PC Made to Wow").

COOL MACHINE. Dell's XPS line has that audience in its sights, too. And, in general, when I look at its entry in this market, I like what I see. Putting aside for the moment any criticism of Dell's decision to use only Intel (INTC ) chips and forgo those from rival Advanced Micro Devices (AMD ) -- a choice that rankles many -- I found the Dell XPS 400 I've been testing for the past week to be a fine machine indeed.

It priced out at $2,288 without a monitor, or $2,648 with a monitor, which in this case was a gorgeous 20-inch widescreen display. It contained an Intel Pentium D Processor 930 with a rated speed of three gigahertz, one gigabyte of memory, two 250-gigabyte hard drives, an Nvidia (NVDA ) GeForce 6800 video card, and a Creative Labs (REAF ) X-Fi Sound card. It ships with Microsoft's (MSFT ) Windows Media Center Edition, an integrated TV tuner, and an integrated 13-in-1 media-card reader built into the front.

It looks far different from the Dell machines I've become accustomed to over the years. The major visual anomaly is a cavity in the front that serves as a de facto handle when you're moving the machine around. In fact, it's designed to facilitate the flow of air that cools the CPU chip and graphics card. The result: A machine substantially quieter that you would expect for a device that, when running full-tilt, needs a lot of chill power.

TWO BRAINS. The choice of the Intel Pentium D 930 is significant because this is a dual-core processor. If a microprocessor chip is the central brain of a computer, then the core is its cerebral cortex -- and the XPS 400 has two of them. The idea behind dual-core processors is that, by dividing the labor usually handled by one core while simultaneously slowing both just a little, you get more work done more efficiently. In time this design philosophy will lead to PC microprocessors with 4, 8, even 16 cores. But for now, we're at two cores.

The pair inside the XPS 400 can get a lot accomplished. I had no trouble watching Quicktime video while running a McAfee (MFE ) virus scan in the background, for example, with no apparent degradation in the performance of either.

On the gaming front, I was amazed at the smooth flow of play on games like Doom 3. I'm no good at the game, nor at games like it, but the performances of the graphics was clearly superior to that of lesser machines. The speakers provided excellent sound, though I did detect an underlying buzz in the headphones. Another complaint -- albeit a minor one -- was that the bundled wireless mouse didn't work, despite repeated attempts. I must have had a lemon.

AMD, PLEASE. There was no opportunity to test the machine with a cable-TV connection, so I can't report on its ability to record TV shows. However, it does have a coaxial-cable connection on the back, and one of the hard drives is set up just for recording TV shows. I can report that its ability to display video was terrific, especially on that screen.

All this has me wondering: If Dell really wants to make a name for itself in performance-oriented consumer PCs, why doesn't it go where the performance is and try an AMD chip? The difference between AMD and Intel dual-core chips is important. AMD's approach, which allows the two cores on a chip to communicate more easily than those on an Intel chip, has produced an important performance edge, at least for now.

With the XPS 400, Dell has shown that it is serious about the top-shelf of the PC market. But embracing AMD -- a rumor that it's about to do just that pops up a few times a year -- would make its machines truly exciting !
Provided by Nick


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Response Number 13
Name: jam
Date: August 6, 2006 at 08:41:41 Pacific
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"Iam sure drilling holes to line them up with a differant motherboard would take a road scholar to figure out !"

It's "Rhodes Scholar", you idiot. And the fact that you're even suggesting drilling holes to mount a non-Dell board in a Dell case shows just how little you know about Dell systems.


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Response Number 14
Name: GX1 Man
Date: August 6, 2006 at 11:52:36 Pacific
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Pay up.


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Response Number 15
Name: jam
Date: August 6, 2006 at 20:01:03 Pacific
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http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/04/whats_causing_dell_xps700_delays/


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Response Number 16
Name: chrisman7 (by chrisman.7)
Date: August 8, 2006 at 20:25:43 Pacific
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Watch your capacitors on that dell board they go pop


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Response Number 17
Name: jam
Date: August 9, 2006 at 15:06:22 Pacific
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http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/08/08/dell_blames_cooling_assembly_for_xps700_delays/index.html


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Response Number 18
Name: Woof
Date: August 12, 2006 at 01:44:58 Pacific
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As I work in a computer center which uses Dell, Hp/Compaq IBM/Lenovo, Fujitsu, NEC,Acer etc I feel i should comment at this point.

1: Dells used to be cheap rubbish aimed at business users

2: The new Dells have improved immeasurably from the old GX110/240 etc, they now use some much better cases actually with metal lids rather than the horrible clamshell ones they used to use, I beleive this was to stop the overheating problems they allegedly had with the P4.

3: Alienware is now owned by Dell . . . .

4: I personally would not buy a Dell but if someone was to give me one free I wouldn`t say no.

5: If i was forced to buy a dell i`d format and rteinstall it to get rid of all the crap that Dell in their wisdom think the customer wants.

FWIW

Woof

Always proof-read carefully to see if you any words out.


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Response Number 19
Name: RWD1996
Date: August 17, 2006 at 22:15:41 Pacific
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"It's "Rhodes Scholar", you idiot."

Who cares how it's spelled? This site is for helping people with their computer problems, not for calling people names.

The internet (in particular technical forums like this one) is becoming full of people who do not care about helping others. Instead they care about what kind of argument they can start and how smart they can prove themselves to be.

Let's stop calling people names, and let's stop telling people what an idiot they are, and let's just HELP THEM!!!


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Response Number 20
Name: Derek
Date: August 18, 2006 at 15:15:24 Pacific
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RWD1996

As I said previously, I couldn't find a question. Nobody can help unless there is something being asked. Did you manage to find a request for help somewhere in the original post?

DerekW


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Response Number 21
Name: RWD1996
Date: August 18, 2006 at 19:53:18 Pacific
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No, Derek, I didn't. But does that give jam a license to call the OP a name? I'll admit that 'idiot' is not as rude as other names, but its still a name that was used in a bad manner. Why not just ask the OP what his/her question was, and leave off the 'you idiot' stuff?


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Response Number 22
Name: RWD1996
Date: August 18, 2006 at 19:58:07 Pacific
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You can start helping by asking the OP what the question is.


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Response Number 23
Name: Derek
Date: August 18, 2006 at 20:18:35 Pacific
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I can't speak for others but my #6 did so, and despite the poster coming back nothing was asked.
DerekW


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Response Number 24
Name: RWD1996
Date: August 19, 2006 at 14:32:04 Pacific
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That's why I posted #22. It's not a big deal, but I just thought the name calling wasn't very nice. I certainly wouldn't do it.


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