dell 2400, choppy watching streaming videos..

September 2, 2010 at 11:20:49
Specs: xp, 2.4 celeron, 1.24 gb ram/ it's 1024+256
fresh xp pro w/sp3
upgrade g-force4/128mb
1024 pc2700/333, plus 256
netgear 10/100/1000
still choppy youtube play back
I think, the next trick would be, ebay n buy p4 w/ht like 2.8 or 3.? for like $15..
I have feeling it's the celeron processor 2.4ghz is the cause.
original spec
celeron 2.4
256 ram
on board video w/shared ram 64mb
10/100 nic

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September 2, 2010 at 11:57:25
I'm just trying to help a friend out, I told him in the beginning that it's not worth the trouble, you could of bought a decent setup for ($200) opposed to all of the upgrades for dell 2400. I mean, I have a killer set up, so working on his old computer is pain staking and time consuming. My desktop specs:
msi 890fxa-gd70
phenom II x4 quad 955be, overclocked 3.6
corsair H5O liquid cooling.
patriot viper ddr3 @1600mhz/ 8g's @1.9v
xion psu 1000watts.
2x sapphire vaporx 4870 2g gddr5(in crossfire) (overclocked, using riva tuner,822/1090) will upgrade to ati 5970.
asus xonar pci/ not using right now,cause all pci slots are cover by massive vid cards...for now on board HD sound. thats why, I want 5970.
cooler master full tower (cosmos).
Bose companion 3/2.1 speaker setup.
300g 10000rpm raptor 2x stripped (raid 0)
500 wd sata II 3.0gbs, will upgrade to ssd sata III 6gbs in raid 0, cause my MB supports sata 6g and make that a primary.
let see what else..
acer 24 inch HD monitor, plus 19 inch acer as well...using that as extend.
logitech performance mouse MX
and 5 cooler master excalibur 120mm honey combed fans (use speed fan for control).
and more....

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September 2, 2010 at 12:51:21
You totally didn't have to list your own desktop specs...but whatever. I like bragging too--just look at my sig. ;)

A few things are holding back your friend's Dell's Flash video performance:

1. Processor. Flash is quite a CPU hog, and the Northwood P4 based Celerons were probably the worst chips to ever come out of Intel. Netburst architecture+puny 128KB cache+slow 400MHz link to main memory=record low IPC (instructions per clock).
The motherboard supports 533MHz FSB P4s up to the 3.06GHz with HT. That would give the system some extra kick.

2. Graphics card. The GeForce 4 MX is a DX7 card. Partial hardware acceleration of Flash requires a DX9 card, and full acceleration requires a DX10 card. Right now, that crappy Celeron is doing all the work.

3. Expansion bus. This is one you can't upgrade. The Dell 2400 is a PCI-only computer. You may be able to get smooth windowed Flash performance by upgrading the CPU and/or video card, but depending on the monitor's resolution, fullscreen YouTube playback may be impossible. And forget about 720p/1080p "Youtube HD". Unlike DirectShow (which is used for DVD, Divx/Xvid, WMV, and MKV-contained video), Flash uses the GDI+ render method under Windows XP. This requires far more video bus bandwidth than any of the DirectShow methods. PCI just can't keep up, especially when you're trying to redraw a full 1920x1200 monitor 30 times per second.

So yeah.

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September 2, 2010 at 13:43:37
You need a better Graphics Card and Upgrade to a P4 CPU:

Last but not least still have a crap system which has cost more to upgrade than it is worth.........

The money that has been spent could of got a newer PC Tower....

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September 2, 2010 at 15:37:09
Thanx guys, new videocard and p4 3.06GHz cpu.. it is...Yeah, I didn't realize we needed dx9 video card...will, rma the g-force4 and get this one from newegg (EVGA 128-P1-N309-LX GeForce FX 5200 128MB 64-bit DDR PCI Video Card) this one is dx9 for $34.99. Even though we have adobe flash 10.? installed, but couldn't use it...because of the dx7 video card n crappy Celeron was doing all of the work...gocha...Hey, thank you for a quick response...I really appreciated...thanks again:-) It's funny how it plays regular avi(divx,xvid..etc) files fine. However, the web contents..seams to chow alot of cpu usage..checking via windows task manager, under performance.
in-addition, installed software , trying to keep it AVG, the latest adobe reader plus flash 10, spybot, melwarebytes, ccleaner and maybe diskeeper2010. I have a final question, after all of the upgrades mentioned above are installed, is it possible to install windos 7 x86. I think it just might of made the win7 requirement. I'm thinking it might run alittle bit smoother than XP pro which is currently installed...because of the better driver support...maybe I'm wrong, since I'm almost dealing with a legacy system.
'The money that has been spent could of got a newer PC Tower....' yeah, I know, I told him that...

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September 2, 2010 at 20:38:49
Windows 7, even with the "better" graphics card and a P4 3.06 will be borderline usefu, I have been therel. Should of left alone and installed a lightweight Linux like Puppy5 which would of run on 256 mem.

So so far you have spent around $150 on a $50 tower ? and it is still crap....

You can not make a "silk purse out of a sows ear" !!

Regards AVG ditch it and install Microsoft Security Essentials, why Diskeeper and Spybot ? are they really required ? Personally I install:

XP SP3 and all critical and non-critical updates and update drivers as required
M$ Security Essentials
Request customer to run One Live Safety Scanner monthly..

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September 2, 2010 at 22:45:05
You need an AGP or PCI-E video card for a good Win7 experience.
Even the fastest PCI cards have trouble rendering the UI smoothly. It's a bus limitation, as even a cheap old GeForce 6200 on PCI-E can easily handle Win7.

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