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Name: farmerj
Date: August 29, 2004 at 05:21:29 Pacific
OS: W2K sp4
CPU/Ram: adm 2100+ / ddr512
Comment:

Can some one explain to me the advantages/disadvantages of shared/dedicated video memory. I am looking to purchase a notebook computer and have noticed that most of them have shared video memory. I know I need at least 64mb of video memory since I will be gaming on this note book. Will shared memory be a problem? What is it sharing with?
Thanks,
J.



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Response Number 1
Name: ChrisG (by ChristopherTGarrett)
Date: August 29, 2004 at 05:34:51 Pacific
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SHared memory is shared with your redular memory. If you have shared memory its best to have as much memory as possible.


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Response Number 2
Name: SamZee
Date: August 29, 2004 at 06:38:01 Pacific
Reply:

Exactly. But If I were you, I would NOT get an integrated card that steals System RAM. Since you said you are going to be a gamer on the laptop, I would buy a 128MB Card and stick it in there. Like a one of the Radeon 9200's. That wont eat up System RAM.


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Response Number 3
Name: StuartS
Date: August 29, 2004 at 06:52:26 Pacific
Reply:

AS this is a laptop the J is buying, there wont be a lot of choice as to which kind of video card is intalled. You get what is given and there is not a lot you can do about it.

The only thing that can be done is to buy a laptop that has dedicated memory, but of course, they will be a little more expensive.

Stuart


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Response Number 4
Name: Tbird4point6LX97
Date: August 29, 2004 at 06:57:00 Pacific
Reply:

samzee,

you just cant buy a video card and stick it in a laptop...it just doesn't work that way...it all depends on the laptop you get, because some actually have a separate video card..my dell laptop has a separate 32 meg radeon 7500, unfortunately there is only 1 possible alternative and i have yet got a definitive answer to that..doesn't matter in my case, i'm not gaming on a laptop

there are laptops out there that have the ati radeon 9700..... some alienware and asus laptops have interchangeable video cards and they claim future upgradability

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Response Number 5
Name: jam
Date: August 29, 2004 at 07:07:37 Pacific
Reply:

OK...I've never even seen the inside of a laptop. I know you can upgrade the CPU & RAM, but do they actually have video cards that can be swapped? I thought they all used integrated video? Can someone clarify this??

J (by farmerj),

Shared memory is just that...it's taken away from system memory for the video. You need a minimum of 256mb for Windows to peform decently, & 512mb is considered the "sweet spot". If your system only has 256mb & you use 64mb of that for video, that leaves only 192mb left for Windows. Look for a machine with 512mb.....


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Response Number 6
Name: johnr
Date: August 29, 2004 at 09:35:13 Pacific
Reply:

As response no. 4 said (sorry, very long handle) there are a few brands which have dedicated graphics cards - alienware's a favourite as they are intent on producing 'super-gaming' laptops, but apart from those few, you will tend to be stuck with shared graphics - laptops aren't designed for dedicated gamers. I haven't come across any that share more than 64Mb which could be a problem for you, but decent laptops should come with at 512Mb total RAM as standard & if not it's very easy to add.

"I know that I'm mad - I've always been mad..."


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Response Number 7
Name: titaniumx3
Date: August 29, 2004 at 09:37:03 Pacific
Reply:

Shared video memory basically uses the system RAM. So if you got 512mb ram and 64mb shared video card, its gonna be taken off the system ram. You said your gonna be using this laptop for gaming??? Well in that case I STRONGLY recommend you avoid laptops with video cards that use shared memory. These laptops usually have integrated GPUs that are years behind in terms of graphics technology and performance. The fact they use shared memory means they are VERY SLOW. The memory found in dedicated graphics cards is a LOT faster than system RAM and because dedicated graphics cards have their own memory, bandwidth is obviously a lot higher.

The bottom line is if your even thinking about playing games on your laptop, get one with a modern dedicated mobile graphics card. The only exception is if your gonna play old games or non-3d games.

Check the ATI and Nvidea websites for details on their mobile GPUs.

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Response Number 8
Name: SamZee
Date: August 30, 2004 at 15:52:22 Pacific
Reply:

I guess Im a bit late posting.......

"samzee,

you just cant buy a video card and stick it in a laptop..."

That I am very aware of ... heheh, but for some reason, when I was posting, I had it in my head that this was a desktop we were talkin about...... even though I typed "laptop" heheh. Sry about that, I just dont really talk about laptops on this forum.

If go to a lot of business trips or go to a lot of places in which you would like to have a mobile comp.... then sure go for a laptop and get a good mobile Video Card. Otherwise. if it is going to be around the house......... then definitely go for a Desktop....



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Response Number 9
Name: marcelod
Date: September 20, 2004 at 14:49:18 Pacific
Reply:

Dear Sirs,

I am to buy a Toshiba A50-SP306 notebook, it has shared video of 32 MB. do you think it is not a good idea? This notebooks will be used to run office software basically and DVD.Regards.


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Response Number 10
Name: Mathieu Riendeau
Date: September 24, 2004 at 19:18:43 Pacific
Reply:

Hi J,

I don't know if you already bought your laptop, but if you are going to be gaming on a laptop, you won't find the kind of laptop you need everywhere. What I meen is, forget the cheap price laptop that FutureShop is selling. You are gonna pay minimun 3000-3500US$ for a gaming laptop.

Well, all this to say that, for 1/3 of this price, you get a good PC that is built for gaming!! Think about it...



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