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Creative Vibra16 ISA CT2960 Problem

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Name: DJ Luminus
Date: October 2, 2008 at 05:43:41 Pacific
OS: All OSes
CPU/Ram: Intel Pentium III 1.0GHz
Product: ASUS P3V4X
Comment:

I have two identical Creative Vibra 16 ISA CT2960 sound cards. I'm trying to use one of them on an ASUS P3V4X motherboard but everytime it plays a 16 bit and/or 44KHz sound it makes annoying noise and clicks in the right speaker (like Pak Pak Pak). I've Tried both cards and got the same results. I used one of them on an ASUS P2B mobo a few months ago. On the P2B the noises it made were much quieter. Two years ago I used it on an old socket 7 mobo with AT factor form and it ran perfectly. Is there anything I can do or should I give up this great mobo and get one with Socket 7?

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Response Number 1
Name: guapo
Date: October 2, 2008 at 05:53:43 Pacific
Reply:

Can you try a different set of speakers? I run my sound card through my home stereo. The sound rocks.


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Response Number 2
Name: DJ Luminus
Date: October 2, 2008 at 06:23:34 Pacific
Reply:

I tried a different set of speakers and it still made this "pak pak" noise.

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Response Number 3
Name: Mattwizz3 (by mattwizz3)
Date: October 2, 2008 at 06:47:01 Pacific
Reply:

I'm not sure if there is a reason why you need these old cards but why dont you just buy a new sound card? You can pick them up for $5 - $10 for even 5.1. You can get decent creative ones as OEM for pretty cheap now too. Better solution then changing Mobo's.

Although, before doing either you could change the assigned IRQ to an unused one and see if that clears it up, also dont have any other cards installed too close to it.

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Response Number 4
Name: DJ Luminus
Date: October 2, 2008 at 07:26:29 Pacific
Reply:

I need a sound card that has OPL3 (FM Synth) and can be used under win 3.11. The most powerful Creative Labs sound cards that support OPL3 are the the members of the Sound Blaster 16 family. I think the problem is in the ISA slot (an electrical problem). Is there any PCI version of the Sound Blaster/Vibra 16?

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Response Number 5
Name: pyrolitic
Date: October 2, 2008 at 10:35:58 Pacific
Reply:

I currently have a Creative Vibra ISA card in a 450MHz PIII computer and it works just fine. I don't believe there was ever a PCI version of the card made. If the ISA port(s) on your ASUS MB are correct, there isn't any reason the card shouldn't work as designed. ISA is a standard, if the MB has an ISA slot, it is supposed to conform to that standard. Have you checked through all the different configuration options in your MB BIOS? I have seen BIOS options on motherboards which allowed timing adjustments to the ISA slots. Perhaps your ASUS has default settings which aren't supported by the Vibra.


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Response Number 6
Name: DJ Luminus
Date: October 2, 2008 at 11:26:39 Pacific
Reply:

My motherboard BIOS allows timing adjustments for PCI only. The only adjestments allowed for ISA are DMA channel and IRQ adjestments.

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Response Number 7
Name: 1stepbeyond
Date: October 2, 2008 at 13:17:20 Pacific
Reply:

hi

i have a mate who uses midi alot on keyboard and other stuff for recording, now this is going back a few years so im a bit foggy on detail but that stutter noise is an interupt & or isa speed issue with the software.

i remember various upgrades for him & AWE comes to mind isa version followed by PC upgrade and a pci AWE32 gold! i think you need last version for opl3 (are you using a yamaha keyboard + midi cable thingy)

& is there some reason your still using win3.11?,, software? the vibra works on 98se i played doom to death on it.

i think win98se was his choice at the time and that worked fine, if i remember i'll ask him this week end what the story was else steal his zimmer frame for ransom

:)


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Response Number 8
Name: DJ Luminus
Date: October 2, 2008 at 14:03:35 Pacific
Reply:

The sound card does not stutter at all, it just makes noisy click sound in the right speaker when it plays high quality sounds. When I run DOS games like Doom, the noises will be heard on the left speaker.

I don't create music with that computer anymore. I'm using it to run old software and to keep my old music stuff (I started making music in 1998 when I was 13 years old with a similar Pentium II computer).

I'm using 6 operating on this computer. Windows 3.11 (Hebrew version) is one of them and I need it for my old stuff. I have also Windows 98 SE (Hebrew version) installed on it and when I run it the noise is much worse.

Does the PCI AWE32 support OPL3? Is it supported under windows 3.11? If yes, I'll try to get one.

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Response Number 9
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 2, 2008 at 14:09:39 Pacific
Reply:

It does this for 'all os's' or just 3.11?

Reserve irq5 in cmos/bios setup for legacy device. Set PnP OS option in cmos/bios setup to 'no'.


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Response Number 10
Name: DJ Luminus
Date: October 2, 2008 at 14:24:51 Pacific
Reply:

I does it for all operating systems. I've already tried reserving IRQ 5 for ISA devices and turning off the OS PnP option but it doesn't help.

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Response Number 11
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 2, 2008 at 22:26:01 Pacific
Reply:

I don't know what the problem is but I have 3 different new ISA sound cards with FM synthesizer (not necessarily OPL3). They have different chipsets:

ES1869F
CX4235-XQ3
82C931

All have 3.X setup. If you want one I'll put it on ebay for $5 plus shipping. Driver disk included.

But without knowing what's causing the interference a different card may not matter. Let me know if you're interested.


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Response Number 12
Name: DJ Luminus
Date: October 3, 2008 at 04:03:26 Pacific
Reply:

I don't think a different card would matter. The Vibra 16 card I have works perfectly on older computers.

I have two options: Getting an AWE64 Gold ISA card or Getting an ASUS P5A socket 7 ATX mobo.

The AWE64 Gold is 90% independent which means most of the circuits that are necessary for the ISA card to run are printed on the card itself, so it might solve the problem. Are there any Win 3.1x drivers for that sound card? Does it have OPL3 or OPL4 synthesizer?

About the ASUS P5A mobo: I heard it has some problems running AGP 2X cards. I want to use an ATI 3D Rage Pro AGP 2X video card and my Vibra 16 ISA sound card on it. Will they work fine with that motherboard?

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Response Number 13
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 3, 2008 at 12:14:28 Pacific
Reply:

I googled awe64 driverguide and got quite a few hits. Here's one:

http://members.driverguide.com/driv...

that says it has 3.1 drivers.

I've used the P5A-B which is the AT version of the P5A and don't recall any problems with using AGP cards. The only thing I didn't like about it was it would often hang on shutdown with 98 SE and the typical patches for that problem wouldn't fix it.


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Response Number 14
Name: 1stepbeyond
Date: October 3, 2008 at 12:20:42 Pacific
Reply:

hi

spoke with friend today ,& he used calkwalk alot, his memory is as foggy also but the awe comes in various flavours isa and pci , so your ASUS P3V4X could use either, now then the later version pci supports opl3 & some use wavetable emulation so probably best to read up on them 1st, lots on ebay.com

all i can find on the net is a wiki page with loads of detail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_...

+ i have no idea if these drivers work

http://members.driverguide.com/driv...

probably needs some testing

hope that helps a bit more.


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