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Name: arirang22
Date: June 27, 2008 at 13:17:35 Pacific
OS: XP
CPU/Ram: 2G
Product: Dell XPS 410
Comment:

I was wondering if the Core temperature is too hot. I just clean out the fan for the Dell XPS 410, but I didn't check the temperature before cleaning it.I am not sure if I messed something up. Below are what my reading are from SpeedFan:

HD0: 35C
Core 0: 32C
Core 1: 29C
Core: 63C
Ambient: 0C

Could it been I need a new core fan?



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Response Number 1
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: June 27, 2008 at 13:23:22 Pacific
Reply:

See the info in this recent thread, especially response 8:
http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...


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Response Number 2
Name: arirang22
Date: June 27, 2008 at 13:29:33 Pacific
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This part is worded weird:
The highest temp specified I've seen at which a cpu can run and not be damaged is about 80C - that would be the temp at which the mboard should itself off, and the warming temp should be less than that.

I couldn't make sense of the 2nd half of it. Is it saying that 65C on the Core should be about normal?

Edit: I think this temperature would be normal since it's my graphics card.


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Response Number 3
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: June 27, 2008 at 13:52:41 Pacific
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Computer bios Setups often have a temp you can set for the mboard bios warning you the cpu is getting too hot (by means of beeps or a message), and another higher temp at which the mboard should shut down at automatically if the cpu gets to that temperature. That higher temp should never be higher than 80 or 85 C according to what I've seen, and the warning temp should be at least 5 C below that.
The max temp at which a cpu can run at for any susstained time and not be damaged is often called it's critical temp, and the temp it should never get hotter than is often called the absolute max temp, in the tech docs for the cpu or family of cpus.

"At idle" means when the computer has fully warmed up but you haven't been doing anything with the computer for a while - the lowest stable temp.
63C is high - it should be close to the other Core temps, unless that sensor isn't actually hooked up - in that case, it never changes no matter what you do with the computer.
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63 C is high for a graphics chipset too.
They often have fans that are smaller and/or that have sleeve bearings instead of ball bearings and are more likey to slow down and eventually fail earlier than larger ones.
If it's a fan on one of the mboard main chipset chips, often that also has video built into it, they are well known to slow down and eventually fail long before a cpu fan or power supply fan does.
If the video is not built into it, you can replace the fan on a main chipset chip with a heatsink that never needs replacing - e.g. Zalman NB47J

The bios setup has the current temps in it and they have been calibtrated to suit the mboard and are more likely to give you a truer reading than Speedfan. If you're not sure which core is which, I've never seen the temp of a video chipset core in Setup.


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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: June 27, 2008 at 14:11:11 Pacific
Reply:

"Could it been I need a new core fan?"

No, it means you need a different program for checking the core temp. Your cores are 32C & 29C, there's absolutely nothing run with that. Have you confirmed those temps by checking the BIOS? I have no idea what the 63C temp is. How about trying "CoreTemp"?

http://www.alcpu.com/CoreTemp/

"The highest temp specified I've seen at which a cpu can run and not be damaged is about 80C"

And what CPU would that be? Intel CPUs have had thermal protection circuitry for years.

http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/res...


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Response Number 5
Name: arirang22
Date: June 27, 2008 at 14:30:09 Pacific
Reply:

The program states Core as my Nvidia Graphics card. It's not a really good graphics card, but it's not integrated onto the motherboard. I will have to get a heatsink as Tubesandwires has suggested.

Thank you everyone for all your input. I greatly appreciate it.


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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: June 27, 2008 at 14:53:55 Pacific
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If it IS the GPU temp, it's not too high. Most GPU's have a max safe temp well over 100C. It would help if you'd post what card you have.


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Response Number 7
Name: kx5m2g
Date: June 27, 2008 at 15:03:10 Pacific
Reply:

jam: Would you say that CoreTemp is more reliable than speed fan ?


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: June 27, 2008 at 15:17:09 Pacific
Reply:

I don't know if that's necessarily the case, but I have seen Speedfan spit out some odd temp readings.


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Response Number 9
Name: kx5m2g
Date: June 27, 2008 at 15:58:56 Pacific
Reply:

I just installed it on a compuetr with an Abit motherboard. Core Temp seems to be giving very similar temperatures to Abit's uguru utility. Of course speed fan does give other temperature readings that Core Temp doesn't, like the hard drive.


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