Computer keeps freezing and crashing!!!

January 18, 2011 at 09:34:08
Specs: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.0GHz
Help me! My computer keeps freezing once I browse the web to watch YouTube videos, start up TweetDeck or any other programs. I ran CCleaner already and cleaned up the registry of my computer, defragged, ran anti-virus scanners, removed junk and cleaned up inside of my computer for dust.

Today, I tried to restart my computer and it just kept saying "Logging off" for about an hour, until I hit the turn off button. It then popped up with Startup repair and told me to remove any new devices that I attached, which I haven't done so..

This also happened to me a long time ago and other guys from tech forums told me it was a power supply issue or corrupted hard drive. I bought a new 640GB hard drive and 850W power supply and was still getting random freezes and crashes. Now several months later, I had enough it's back again. I need to fix this once and for all.. I also use the num lock trick to see if my computer responds, which it doesn't most of the time.

At that time I reformatted my computer but the problem still comes back. So I give up on that.. I also tried memtest86+ and ran the test several times which all passed.

It has to be CPU related because while it was freezing up I managed to run the resource monitor and the ram and hard drive statistics were still operating and showing graphs. But the CPU had no information for processes or graphs. And also, I ran Speccy to see the temperature of my hardware and it was loading forever and said "Unable to load CPU DLL".

Sorry if my grammar doesn't make any sense, I'm trying to type as fast as I can before it crashes or freezes again!!!

CPU-Z
The number changes. I read another post on this website and it said to disable SpeedStep? Which I did.

Core Speed: 2004.2 MHz/3006.2 MHz
Multiplier: x6.0/9.0
Bus Speed: 334.0 MHz
Rated FSB: 1336.1 MHz

Temperatures
CPU: 33oC
Graphics: 45oC
Hard Drive: 39oC

Specs
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
Motherboard: G31-M7 TE
CPU: Intel® Core™2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Video Card: Palit ATI Radeon HD 4850 512MB
RAM: 4096MB
Hard Drive: 640 GB SATA II Seagate


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#1
January 18, 2011 at 12:12:52
download, the lxde version of this and create a bootable cd:

http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=06411

boot with the cd, choose the run from ram option. when the destop comes up , open firefox , go to youtube and run videos for about an hour.
report back the results.

larry


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#2
January 18, 2011 at 13:06:03
Thanks for replying! I'm downloading it right now. At the moment there seems to be no lags or stutters but that's normal. After a couple of hours or days of use it will come back again. Even though it may not freeze while this software is running, will it detect anything unusual in the RAM?

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#3
January 18, 2011 at 14:09:01
What the hell, I thought this was a program that would help identify the problem and log events and errors. This is just running a operating system from CD.

I'm thinking, are you checking to see if I freeze at all in Linux? So if I don't freeze at all, you're going to say that it's the Windows 7 operating system that is causing my freezes and crashes?


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#4
January 18, 2011 at 15:59:45
"I'm thinking, are you checking to see if I freeze at all in Linux? So if I don't freeze at all, you're going to say that it's the Windows 7 operating system that is causing my freezes and crashes?"

yes, if the problem goes away using a different OS, then it is not likely a hardware problem. There may be an option to run memtest when you first boot the cd, many linux cd have that, I'll check mine and get back.

" After a couple of hours or days of use it will come back again."
You can run it from the ram, you have 4Gb, so you have enough. Run it from the ram for 12 hrs and, see if it freezes.

larry


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#5
January 18, 2011 at 16:09:30
Okay, thanks Larry. I'll run the memtest all night and will upload a pic.

What do you mean "You can run it from the ram,"? Run PCLinuxOS off the RAM instead of hard drive? I'm confused, I never knew about PCLinuxOS I like it's boot from CD and run feature.


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#6
January 18, 2011 at 16:20:45
there is no memtest on the pclinuxos cd, I'm running my cd from the ram now. you could download the memtest iso and create a bootable cd.
http://www.memtest.org/

Also I was thinking that the 1 piece of hardware that running linux from the ram for a few hours is not going to rule out is the hard drive.
I understand you stated you bought a new one, but you might consider getting the diagnostic from the manufactures website, creating a bootable cd and testing the drive.

larry


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#7
January 18, 2011 at 16:24:45
"What do you mean "You can run it from the ram,"? Run PCLinuxOS off the RAM instead of hard drive? I'm confused, I never knew about PCLinuxOS I like it's boot from CD and run feature."

when you first boot the cd, you have a few options, use the down arrow key to highlight the run from the ram option, hit the enter key. then when the desktop comes up you can take the cd out.
Don't install it to the hard drive, you will blow away windows!
larry


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#8
January 18, 2011 at 16:37:44
Oh right, I'll try that. I also forgot to mention that I have downloaded and done a diagnostic test from Western Digital website a couple of months ago, and nothing was found. But I'll be doing all of the tests I done before again, starting from tomorrow. I'll post all of the results here.

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#9
January 19, 2011 at 02:37:31
Okay, I ran Memtest for about 8 hours and 0 errors all pass. I'm running PCLinuxOS off my RAM now. For now, the freeze has disappeared. It usually happens when I play PC games or running a lot of programs up because the day it started to freeze, it was when I was doing some coursework and a lot of programs was up and was freezing in Adobe Photoshop. This was last week, then a couple days later it would go back to normal. I then played F.E.A.R. 2 and the next day major freeeeeze.

At the moment, I haven't seen any freezes yet since early afternoon yesterday. I am now going to run the diagnostic test on my hard drive.

Also, I have two hard drives, my primary is 640GB and secondary is 320GB. I use my second hard drive just to store and backup data. I never install anything in there.

I ran a quick test and both passed 0 errors.. If no fix can be found I'm gonna reformat. I haven't reformatted since 16th May 2010. Even though I know this freeze is going to come back again.


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#10
January 19, 2011 at 07:23:27
You stated in your initial post that you bought a new 850w power supply. Can you post the make and the specs, should be listed on the side of the power supply.

larry


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#11
January 19, 2011 at 10:38:51
Oh crap, not 850W it's 650W. I don't know why I said 850. At the time it cost me £129. I was about to get the 850W, but they said it'll be overkill and a waste.

Corsair Memory TX650W 650 Watt PSU ATX


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#12
January 19, 2011 at 13:50:15
seems like a decent power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

I am about out of ideas.

larry


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#13
January 20, 2011 at 00:42:00
Yeah, that's mine.

='[ looks like a reformat will have to suffice for now. But thanks for all your help Larry!


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#14
January 20, 2011 at 08:17:23
could try the most recent drivers for your graphics card first. Most of the issues that you mentioned in post #9, are "graphic intensive". Maybe pull the card and reinsert it. You also have on board graphics, were the drivers ever installed?? if so, they should have been uninstall before the drivers for your card were installed.
But try the most recent drivers for your card before you format and lets see what happens. Instead of going to the manufacturers site go to ATI.

http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownlo...

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#15
January 20, 2011 at 09:25:24
This definitely sounds like a Hardware issue, maybe caused by drivers. Here is a link to Driver Cleaner Pro: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/s...
First go to the ATi site and download the newest ATi drivers for your video card as advised by Larry. Then run DC Pro, removing the ATi Drivers for you present video card, Drivers for the Onboard Video card and any other Video card drivers you may have had before your present video card (some people buy new video cards without removing the old drivers and this can cause a problem). Follow all directions that DC Pro gives you. Once all Video Card Drivers are removed reboot as instructed. Once in Windows STOP Windows from installing Video Drivers for the new hardware it finds. This is when you'll install the new ATi drivers you downloaded.


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#16
January 21, 2011 at 06:25:49
After the last ATI driver update in December, a month later I started to freeze. I have reinstalled the driver and will post back if any freezes happen.

Update: Wow, my computer has started to freeze again. I was watching YouTube on full screen using Google Chrome and with two programs up (TweetDeck and Windows Live Mail). All of the sudden the YouTube video freezes for about 30 seconds and flash crashes.

I then try to close and restart my web browser but it's taking forever to close down, so I try get the Task Manager up and even that is taking long.. Now about 5 mins my web browser is taking long to render or load the page. I know it's not the internet, it's my computer.. ='[.

My graphics card isn't over heating as well it's at 46oC. When my computer keeps freezing every 30 seconds, the hard drive stops making noise and then it resumes. Do you think it's the configuration of my hard drive through BIOS which is causing the crashes or wiring to the motherboard?

I don't know if I stopped the freezes by entering my secondary hard drive. But once I went into it, it took a couple of seconds to load and now there's no freezes now.


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#17
January 21, 2011 at 21:18:52
I see your still having problems. I also see you said that you updated your ATi Video Card Drivers in December! Before you updated in December did you uninstall all of the previous Video Card Drivers? I'm assuming that you didn't remove ALL video card drivers. Did you download and run DC Pro? If you haven't downloaded DC Pro I would advise doing so. Also download the newest ATi Video Card Drivers for your video card from the ATi site, NOT the video card manufacturers site. Install and run DC Pro Uninstalling ALL Video Card Drivers including your onboard video card! Once you've run DC Pro and uninstalled all video card drivers reboot as instructed. Once your computer boots into Windows it will find new hardware, at this point don't let Windows install the drivers, you need to choose to install manually. This is where you'll install the new ATi Video Card Drivers. Again, here is a link to DC Pro: http://www.afterdawn.com/software/s...

I know it's a PITA but we need to do this first to rule out your computer having conflicting video card drivers. If it's still freezing after you've run DC Pro we'll move on to other could be/would be problems. Plase download and run DC Pro, it's Free and won't take that long to uninstall all of the Video Card Drivers!

BTW, You could try installng the drivers from the CD that came with your video card first. If the computer still freezes after the CD Video Card Drivers are loaded, run DC Pro again removing these drivers then install the newest ATi Drivers you had downloaded. Sometimes newer drivers can cause problems too. This is why I'm adding this step.

If you've already installed the newest Ati drivers and it still freezes try running DC Pro again removing the newest drivers and then install the CD Drivers to see if they work better.

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#18
January 22, 2011 at 07:37:04
I did run DC Pro yesterday but was still freezing. The drivers on the CD is a very old version. I think it'll give me problems going into 1920x1080 resolution and start to mess up. I also got a freeze while typing this. Hour later my computer is freezing like crap! I'm having trouble shutting it down, it's just loading.

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#19
January 22, 2011 at 10:39:55
BTW, it's very important to check everything if you want to fix this problem. I know it's a PITA, but it's a process by elimination. If you don't load the Old CD Drivers and see if it works, we can't eliminate the new drivers as causing the problem.

What all did you have running when it froze this time (YouTube, Internet Explorer, Word, Media Player, Etc...)?
Go into Task Manager then the Processes Tab. In the lower left corner, how many Processes does it show are running (check when it's not freezing and check when it's freezing (if you can)?

I see you replaced the Power Supply and Hard Drive! Did you build this computer yourself? How familiar are you with the inside of the computer (are you comfortable changing Hard Drives, RAM, Power Supplies, Etc...)? Do you have any spare parts you could use for testing purposes (RAM, Hard Drives, Power Supplies, Etc...)? Do you have any Thermal Grease, if so, what type? Did you Format the 320GB Hard Drive after you put the 640GB in as the primary drive? Are both Hard Drives SATA connections?

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#20
January 23, 2011 at 11:52:36
I'll try and install the old ATI drivers from the CD. At the time of the freeze I was running TweetDeck, Google Chrome and Windows Live Mail. I think around 60-72 processes were running. I did not build the computer from scratch, I bought it off Cube247.co.uk.

I'm comfortable with changing hard drives, RAM, power supply, graphics card but not the CPU and motherboard (looks complicated), and I do not have any thermal grease. I did format both of the hard drives as well and are both running on SATA connections.

I also noticed in the Task Manager under the Performance tab where the Physical Memory (MB) area is. That every time I crash, where it says "Free" I crash around where the digits are below 50. Every time I boot up my computer that area is usually around 1-2000+ and everything runs smoothly. But then it just decreases quite rapidly until it hits low areas and sometimes begin to crash at for example "Free 15". It's like I do not have enough RAM when clearly the graphs say I am only using 1.6GB when I have 4GB.


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#21
January 23, 2011 at 20:17:36
Ok, let me know if the old drivers work or not! If the drivers don't work, the first thing I'd like you to do is to make sure the Onboard Video Card is Disabled in the BIOS! Double and triple check that it's disabled. If it's not disabled, disable it by turning it off, save your settings in the BIOS and exit.

If it is disabled you will next need to disconnect everything inside the case that you don't need to have running (CD/DVD Roms, Extra Hard Drives, NIC Cards, Sound Cards, any PCI or PCI-e cards that you don't need). You'll need to leave the Power connected to the motherboard (2 places, 4-8 pin & 24 pin), hard drive,video card & heatsink, also have the RAM, CPU/Heatsink and video card all installed, then give it a try.

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#22
January 25, 2011 at 07:12:35
I can't install the old drivers from CD, it's just stuck on the logo of ATi. I think it's because the drivers on the CD are 32bit and is for Vista my computer is Windows 7 64bit. Originally my computer came as x86 and I reformatted to x64. So, I'lll have to install the new drivers from the ATi website which I have, but my computer still keeps freezing.

How do you disable onboard video card in the BIOS? I cannot find the setting for that.

Update: I follow all of the instructions for DC Pro but every time I install the latest drivers, restart and boot up. My screen is stuck at "Starting Windows" and you can hear when Windows 7 logs on. I then have to turn the computer off by the power button go into safe mode and uninstall.

Now I'm on my desktop but in 800x600 resolution. If I restart again it will freeze at that point.. =\. It's not detecting my graphics card any more only VGA.

I reseated my graphics card and tried to install the latest ATi drivers and restart but it's still crashing on Windows Starting screen.

DC Pro broke my graphics card. I can't install any drivers on to it. My computer has to run off the onboard graphics card. Every time I install the latest drivers it just freezes on start up..

It's nearly been 3 hours and I'm still sitting here trying to fix this still.

Under Device Manager the ATI Radeon 4800 Series is listed as Unknown.

Nearly 5 hours now and still can't find a way around it. Lucky I got the PCLinuxOS disc to load up and post updates from that. It's funny how I can go into 1920x1080 resolution in Linux but not in Windows.. Seriously, DC Pro just made my computer worse than before. I can't even get into Windows.


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#23
January 25, 2011 at 20:03:32
It's not DC Pro! The problem is that your Onboard Video is still not disabled. I wish I could tell you where to look in the BIOS to disable this video card but every BIOS is different. You might need to go thru the BIOS with fine tooth comb to find it. Maybe look for something that says Intel Graphics. I don't have the luxury of looking myself as none of my computers have Onboard Video. I have although turned the video card off on computers with onboard video many times before.

Did your Video Card cause the freezing before you converted from Vista 32 bit to Windows 7 64 bit? Did you check the Windows 7 list for compatible devices for the 64 bit version? I assume it's ok because ATi has drivers for it, but I'd still check!

To get you back to the point you were at originally before you used DC Pro, do a System Restore to a Point just before you started using DC Pro. Go to Start> All Programs> Accessories> System Tools then System Restore, remember to chose a point just before you installed DC Pro!

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#24
January 26, 2011 at 00:46:45
I tried System Restore already and there is no point in time where I installed DC Pro. The only time is when I install or Windows was trying to install ATi DIsplayer Driver, and even then I can't go back it freezes. Also, I can't go back into safe mode anymore it freezes when loading the system files.

Yeah, I think the time I froze was when I converted from WIndows 7 32 bit to 64 bit, sometime last year. I'm sure my computer is compatible with Windows 7 64 bit, I ran the Window 7 Advisor.

I'll try look into the BIOS manual and try to find the setting.

Great, I think I just disabled the onboard VGA and now when my computer boots up, I can't see anything. So I can't go back into BIOS and re-enable. What should I do now?

Wow, I'm never doing that ever again. I had to take the CMOS battery out to reset the BIOS, then reformat my computer (again, I did it last week already =\). Instead of 64 bit I done 32 bit to see if I still get any crashes.


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#25
January 26, 2011 at 20:28:00
Sorry, I'm not here 24/7. I wish I could be there to help you out but it's not at all possible.

Sounds Like your now running the Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit! I hope this is your problem. I have run into many programs and devices that are supposed to be 64 bit compatible but on some systems just cause havoc.

On my systems here I had to loose a device here and there if I wanted to stay with 64 bit and I'm running Vista Ultimate 64 bit on two of them. Of course there are always devices that the manufacturer refuses to release 64 bit drivers for.

We do have two laptops with Windows 7 Premium 64 bit. Both of these computers had problems with my Brother printers (Brother MFC-9440CN & Brother MFC-845CW). I couldn't load the 64 bit drivers downloaded from the Brother Website, but when I let Windows 7 install its own drivers they worked fine. All of the features work, Scanners, Copy, Fax, Etc...

Please don't blame DC Pro for the problems! Many things contributed to the problems you recently had (my poor instructions, your ability to follow my poor directions, your computer freezing all of the time, etc...). DC Pro is a Driver Cleaning Program that has very good ratings. You just ran into some bad luck at the same time you were using it. I really recommend you only use it if you would upgrade your Video Card again. This would be to remove the ATi drivers already installed so you can install the new drivers for the new card without having a conflict.

Again, sorry and please let me know how thing go with Windows 32bit!

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#26
January 27, 2011 at 04:41:52
Thanks for everything bugspop1 for all the help and support, I mean it! I'll report back if it freezes again in 32 bit.

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#27
January 28, 2011 at 13:44:37
Great, I just had the worse freeze ever. While I was downloading a game called League of Legends with Skype, XFire, Steam, TweetDeck and Google Chrome running. My computer just FROZE. Everything stopped working and when I tried to close it, it would just load with the cursor.

I then turnt off the computer by the switch and when my computer booted up, it loaded the BIOS information and logo like normal. But after, it did not load the Windows is loading boot screen, it just went completely black. So I turnt off the power switch again, and again and then the third time it loaded the Windows boot screen and was taking 3 minutes to load. Now it's up and I am writing this before it crashes again!


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#28
January 28, 2011 at 20:23:58
Try removing everything from the computer leaving only:
Power Supply
Motherboard
CPU/Heatsink
RAM
Hard Drive (the drive with Windows)(disconnect the 2nd Hard Drive)
Use the on board Video(take the ATi Video Card out)

Now try running the computer to see if it freezes.

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#29
January 30, 2011 at 07:45:48
Okay, I disconnected my graphics card and my secondary hard drive. Everything seems to be running smoothly. I mean I'm running a lot of applications right now, watching YouTube in 1080p and doing some word processing etc. I'm trying to reenact the freeze. It's been like half an hour now, but will keep testing to the end of the day.

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#30
January 30, 2011 at 11:17:37
shutdown, unplug & put the second HD back in. if it runs ok, then I think you have you answer. Although I would like to put the card back in and install some version of linux to the HD and let it run for a few days. Of course I understand if you don't want to blow away windows again.

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#31
January 30, 2011 at 11:37:33
Please, I don't want to reinstall Windows again. It takes me the whole day, I had to reformat this computer twice in one week. I wish there was some software you could run to test the graphics card? Like memtest for RAM?

Now I'm trying my computer with my secondary hard drive disconnected to make sure.


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#32
January 30, 2011 at 19:02:38
Glad to see you're back Larry. Looks like he's got the 2nd Hard Drive back in. Now we just need to see how things go with the second hard drive hooked up.
The process of elimination was what I was going to have him try next if DC Pro and the reinstall of the new drivers didn't work. Of course he didn't make it that far and had to reinstall Windows. Hope we get this thing going for him, I know how frustrating it can be.

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#33
January 30, 2011 at 20:45:48
This is just a suggestion that you might want to do in the future. I have two equal hard drives both 1TB. I then use Acronis True Image to clone from 1 hard drive to the other. I do this once a month, disconnecting the second hard drive after the cloning is completed. I take the hard drive out of the computer and put it in a safe place (fire safe).

Acronis can do a complete Clone of the Operating System, All Programs, All Documents, All Pictures, All Music, etc... You can do Backups with Acronis and it has many more features but I prefer to use the Clone feature. If for some reason your computer takes a dive (as yours did), you can just place this other hard drive back into the computer, plug it in and off you go. This way, the most information you'll lose would be 1 month. There are many other programs out there that can do this for you like Norton's Ghost, but I prefer Acronis True Image.

I use Acronis True Image at work too. At work we have a Hard Drive Carriage and can do hot swapping. No opening up the case to remove the second hard drive. Just slide it in, turn a key to lock the drive, then start Acronis. Once done, remove hard drive and place in the safe. We have 2 hard drives at work, 1 odd week (goes in our safe) and 1 even week (goes to the bank safety deposit box). We do a clone once a week, can't afford to lose too much information.

The reason I suggested this is so you wouldn't have to reinstall Windows. Myself, I've spent many days just installing Software and Updates. I know just installing Windows, Service packs & Updates can take a large chunck of your day. Many computer shops use a program like this so they don't have to install Windows on every computer they build. They just clone 1 drive and then install the drive into an awaiting system!

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#34
January 31, 2011 at 01:51:09
Cool, I'll look into that further. I haven't crashed yet with my secondary hard drive disconnected, but will continue using my computer the rest of the day to see.

I think it might be my secondary hard drive that causes the crash because it makes sense. That secondary hard drive was my primary hard drive when I was getting all the crashes last year with my poor PSU. Then I bought a new PSU and HDD and used my old hard drive for secondary.


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#35
January 31, 2011 at 21:04:40
So, you haven't put the second hard drive back into the system yet? I would go ahead and put the 2nd Hard Drive back into the computer and see if it causes the freezing. DON'T put the ATI Video Card back in until we see if the 2nd Hard Drive causes any problems. If the computer crashes aftter the 2nd Hard Drive is installed it's most likely the 2nd Hard Drive. If the computer runs good with the 2nd Hard Drive go ahead and put the ATi Video Card in. If it crashes after the ATi Video Card is installed the Video Card is causing the problem. The Process of Elimination!

2nd Hard Drive installed (If Freezes 2nd Hard Drive is the culprit)
2nd Hard Drive installed (if it doesn't freeze install the ATi Video Card)
If the computer works fine with the 2nd Hard Drive you could unhook it now or leave it plugged in.
Plug in ATi Video Card (if the Computer freezes it's te Video Card).

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#36
February 1, 2011 at 00:41:35
At the moment I have my graphics card installed and my hard drive disconnected. Later on today, I will reconnect my secondary hard drive and see if it crashes!

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#37
February 1, 2011 at 14:34:48
How's it going with the Ati Video Card Plugged in?

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#38
February 2, 2011 at 09:21:50
The ATi card connected never gave me any freezes? I also connected my secondary hard drive yesterday morning and tested it out all day yesterday and now today, no freezes! It's strange..

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#39
February 3, 2011 at 17:19:22
Pretty funny. We should have had a winner here! Maybe something was grounding out causing the problem and messing with things inside stopped if from grounding out. Just keep us updated!

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#40
February 3, 2011 at 17:33:14
I have it both connected still and still no signs of crashes or freezes!

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#41
February 4, 2011 at 20:16:22
Just spent about 2 hours last night trying to cool my Laptop down. It began acting strange, things moving slowly. I was typing and the computer couldn't keep up with me at 35 WPM. I thought that the hand rest felt a little warm so I opened up Speedfan, I was running at 85 Degrees Celsius, 185 Degrees Fahrenheit, could cook my eggs on this baby.

I opened it up and re-applied Arctic Silver to the CPU. Once I got it back together I didn't have any video. Think I tore it apart at lease another three times. On the last try I moved the Video Cable around a little then put it back together, it worked! Sometimes it's just in the way you hold your tongue. I'm not sure what was wrong, maybe a loose ground wire, there is one by he video connection. BTW, hate working on laptops!

Glad to here things are still running ok. As with my laptop, just wish I knew what was wrong or what caused the problem. If it were a desktop computer I'd tear my laptop apart again to figure out what caused the problem.

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#42
February 5, 2011 at 08:41:02
Hmm, yeah there are quite a lot of wires that I moved around both near my hard drives and video card. It's really weird.

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#43
February 6, 2011 at 20:21:48
Are you still running ok?

I've been really busy the last few days shoveling That four letter word (snow)! On Wednesday we had about 8 inches, the day before we had 3 inches. I used my snowblower to do about 20 sidewalks and 10 driveways in my neighborhood. Then on Friday I went to my wifes work and used my snowblower again to clean up the snow there.

Woke up Saturday to another 5 inches of snow. Cleaned about 8 sidewalks and 4 driveways before I had to go back to my wifes work again. She needed the snow cleared for a party that night. I couldn't get my snowblower there so I had to do it all by hand, about 3 hours of shoveling! From what the weatherperson is saying, we are to get more snow for the next three days! SOOOOOOO sick of snow!

This hasn't left much time for working on computers or helping on the forums I frequent! Took the time out tonight after scraping the ice in my driveway to watch the Superbowl. Now I'm checking my posts her and at other forums.

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#44
February 6, 2011 at 23:48:43
Yes, it's running all fine :S. Wow, I would love that amount snow over here in the UK but I'll never shovel =P. This issue comes and goes after a few months, like it fixes itself..

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#45
February 10, 2011 at 19:37:42
Well, glad to here it's still running ok. I hate to say this but, I'm sure since we didn't fix anything that you'll be back with the same problem.

I spent most of the day trying to install Linux Ubuntu 10.10 to an older computer. I've downloaded and burned an image to 4 different DVD's. Each DVD has it's own quirk! I've got an older version somewhere that I'll install once I find it because I couldn't get this newer version to install. I'm trying to install it on a computer with an Asus a7n8x-e Deluxe Motherboard, AMD Athlon XP 3000+ @ 2.10GHz, 2 x 512mb DDR G.Skill RAM, 2 x 40GB Western Digital Hard Drive, LG DVD Rom & ATi 9800 Pro Video. I'm going to install a Lite-On DVD Burner to see if maybe the LG DVD Rom is having problems reading the DVD Image burned on a Lite-On DVD Burner.

I sure hope I'm wrong about you having to come back here with the same problem!

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#46
February 11, 2011 at 02:27:51
Yes, I hope your wrong! Again, thanks for all the help.

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#47
February 11, 2011 at 07:05:52
Lol, I was reading through all of the posts and was about to scream about the problem being your graphics card GPU over heating and NOT the OS, but it looks like you finally discovered that. I would run a program called Speed Fan on your computer which will show you the temps of all of your devices...

http://www.almico.com/sfdownload.php


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#48
February 11, 2011 at 15:50:44
When in idle and in use the temperature is around 40-50c. When playing games, 70-75c.

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#49
February 11, 2011 at 15:59:27
That sounds ok. Some of the newer GPUs are speced to run at 100 C. Just be aware that all of that heat has to go some where. It could raise the ambient heat inside your box, causing your other devices such as the CPU to run hotter than they normally would. You would not see this right away because it will take time for the GPU to heat up all of the air in the box, so keep an eye on the CPU temps when your GPU is running at 70+ C. If your CPU gets above 65 C then you might want to look into better ventilation for your box.

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#50
February 11, 2011 at 20:05:18
ace_omega,
Here is a short summary on what we've tried:
We never messed with looking at overheating issues because in his first post he showed the Temp's of both the CPU and GPU and both were ok. It worked fine while running Linux from the CD, no Freezing. Tried drivers for the video card to no avail. Tried removing all unnecessary components and it was working fine so we added the removed components 1 at a time, still working ok at this point.

I'm sure I may have missed a few things that were tried. If interested, please read through the post very carefully to see what steps we might have taken or maybe missed!

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#51
February 12, 2011 at 14:54:43
Wow, going to 51 posts now and were still not 100% sure what was the cause.

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#52
March 11, 2011 at 13:03:28
Okay, I'm back.. I recently had to reformat back to 64 bit. This is because I needed to use Adobe Premiere for university coursework. Adobe Premiere can only be run on 64 bit machines.

Ever since I reformated back to 64 bit on March 3rd I've been getting minor freezes. But just now, I was watching a YouTube video in 720p and the video had green stuff all over it and had trouble playing the video. After freshing the page and reinstalling flash, the problem was still there until it crashed my browser and system. I then had to do a system startup repair to fix the problem.

This has to relate to my graphics card running on 64 bit?


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#53
March 11, 2011 at 13:21:38
And you upgraded your graphics card driver when you went to 64bit correct?

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#54
March 11, 2011 at 13:24:54
Yup, this is the first time when the YouTube video went all fuzzy with green fuzz and crashed my system.

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#55
March 11, 2011 at 14:38:25
Its not you its ATI...

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/2...

You might want to get a new graphics card or write them a letter to fix their 64bit driver.


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#56
March 11, 2011 at 14:46:18
Wow, if I was to get a new graphics card I probably buy a new computer.. My motherboard is really crap and the best graphics card it can handle is a ATI Radeon 4850..

Either buy a new computer or convert back to 32 bit?


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#57
March 12, 2011 at 09:15:55
Blue Screen of Death today, trying to access my files on USB stick..

When I restarted my computer, I had a message coming up saying "A desk read error occured press ctrl+alt+del to restart" I had to this 5 times. At the fourth restart, it just came up with a black screen. At my fifth time restarting by ctrl+alt+del, the option finally came up "Start windows normally"..

bugspop1 or larryf215 please reply. I will take your solution ace_omega, but I want to see what they got to say as well.


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#58
March 16, 2011 at 17:10:49
I emailed AMD and they said it's nothing to do with their 64 bit drivers. It's me and that I should update my applications, windows and my games to avoid freezes and test my RAM etc.. Basically do what you guys been telling me.

I think I fixed the problem now, I forgot when I reconnected my secondary hard drive it messes up my system because I think it's a corrupt hard drive, but I use it to store and back up files lol.. Computer been running fine for two days without it connected. I've checked the wiring and one of the cables that is powering my primary hard drive is also powering my second. I saw another wire that wasn't hooked up to anything and used that to connect, so both hard drives have a dedicated wire to power it.


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#59
May 23, 2011 at 15:36:27
I get freezes still ='[.

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#60
June 14, 2011 at 12:38:27
Hi!! I own a ATI 4850, i have the freeze problem too, i have it for a long time, and NEVER have any problem, i thought that was some program that crash and decided to format, but...the issue is still present, i tryed everythin, and nothig seem to fix the problem, i have a 700W (real) power suply, 4GB RAM, 250GB and 500GB HD, mother MSI platinum, and a cuad core IMD micro. i thought that was a driver problem, but is not, because when I install W7 x64 there are residual pixels on screen (after the instalation, when windows finish loading)and without installing ani kind of drivers, i change the RAM, and freeze :( it mostly happens when some streaming video is running (any page like youtube), i can play games normally, ie portal 2 or duke nukem forever without problems, but for streaming and normal OS usage it crash...
If anyone have a solution i'll be very happy to ear it, thanks in advance and sorry my english!!(Im from Argentina)

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#61
August 1, 2011 at 07:56:28
Hello! I'm suddenly, out of nowhere, having random crashes and freezes. I'm not very good at English, but it seems to crash only when I'm watching videos. I have uninstalled and installed (plus updated) Adobe Reader, it says it's fine now, but it still freezes. I tried scanning for viruses with both Norton and Spybot, both saying nothing is wrong. I also tried the CCleaner and cleaned any errors and registry files, no avail. I tried System Restore, no avail. I also updated Google Desktop, no avail. I thought it was the browser and I switched from Firefox to Opera, but it still freezes when I watch videos. On Safe Mode none of this crap happens. Please someone help! I'm not using Linux and the Computer is 64-bit, Windows 7, Toshiba. That's all I know.......Please help.....

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#62
August 1, 2011 at 16:59:56
Whoops! Meant Adobe FLASH. Also it mostly freezes when I put a video on full screen and/or I stay on the internet for at least 7-30 minutes. I checked the drivers and video card, all seem to be fine. Please HELP!

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#63
August 1, 2011 at 23:42:07
I fixed the problem! I mean for me anyways.. My problem was that my hard drive was overheating! It was running at 50 Celsius and had to buy a much bigger cause which has a big fan that ventilate the hard drives.

Before my hard drives use to idle at 50 Celsius and under load 60 Celsius when playing games. Now it idles at 30 Celsius and under load 35 Celsius as it's summer. I wrote zeros to the drive first, installed it with my new case and reformatted. Now it's running so smooth!


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