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Computer doesn't like RAM

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Name: PL箍!N然
Date: August 25, 2002 at 06:40:00 Pacific
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Hi all,
Got a bit of a problem with my machine, recently I bought 2 sticks of 256 PC-133 to put into my GA-71xe4 motherboard. when I take out my old RAM (2 sticks of 64MB) and replace it with the new RAM, not much happens when I power up. The fan starts and I can hear the hard discs doin' stuff but that's it, no beeps or anything. This is also what my computer does when there is no RAM at all in the board. When I try to use 256MB RAM with the old RAM I can at least see the bios type stuff but on the memory count it completely ignores the new RAM, however it later prevents windows (ME) from loading so it's obviously having some kind of effect on my machine. I've tested the new RAM in another computer and it seems to be fine. This is drivin' me crackers, I can't figure it out :(

Thanks for any suggestions.



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Response Number 1
Name: shadow
Date: August 25, 2002 at 07:19:59 Pacific
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Hi:Does your mobo support 512Mb of Ram ?
If you try your old Ram does the System Boot up fine ??
did you try one Stick OF 256MB ?
is your old Ram PC/100 Dimm or PC/133 Dimm ?
did you insert the Ram all the way?


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Response Number 2
Name: Charles Bradshaw
Date: August 25, 2002 at 11:33:28 Pacific
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You may have gotten high density RAM. Only certain chipsets support this. Also as shadow intimates, your mobo may only support 128 MB sdram dimms at best.

I have the Gigabyte GA-7IXEH which not only supports high density, but has a maximum of 1 GB (3 x 512 MB). I have 1 GB in mine with win98se using the full GB, as well as Mandrake Linux 8.2 Powerpack Edition.

You may have also gotten ram made for proprietary OEM system.

Charles


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Response Number 3
Name: Wolfe
Date: August 25, 2002 at 13:07:41 Pacific
Reply:

Your older mouther board just might not support pc-133 ram.


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Response Number 4
Name: PL箍!N然
Date: August 25, 2002 at 14:49:25 Pacific
Reply:

thanks for the suggestions

Shadow: My board supports up to 768MB of RAM
The system boots up fine with the old ram, that's how i'm able to post on here :)
I've tried both sticks of 256 on their own, no luck.
The old RAM consists of one stick being PC-133 and one PC-100. my system boots up fine with either of them in on their own, so I know the board can handle both speeds, I even tried the new RAM with just the old ram which was pc-100 to clock it down to see if that worked but nope...
I've tried the RAM so many times there's no way I could have seated it wrong everytime.

Charles: I would like to know more about "high density" RAM. my chipset is by AMD, i'll research shortly.
the mainboard I have is suppose to take 3 x 256MB SDRAM to total 768MB RAM.

"You may have also gotten ram made for proprietary OEM system." - what does this mean?? sounds worrying!

Wolfe: I have no idea what you're on about, lol. :-?

Thank you all.


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Response Number 5
Name: PL箍!N然
Date: August 25, 2002 at 14:54:28 Pacific
Reply:

Ahhh, Wolfe I see what you mean now.
One of the old RAM sticks I have is PC-133 and it works fine, even on it's own.

According to the specification it supports PC-133 also.


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Response Number 6
Name: leembo
Date: August 25, 2002 at 15:28:10 Pacific
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Try one of the new memory sticks, all by itself, in the DIMM1 memory slot on thr mobo. Don't be fooled by what you see, on mobos LEFT is not always #1. Check your manual first, and then put one of the new sticks all by itself in the machine - on the Dimm1 slot. If that works, try the second memory module all by itself, also in the Dimm1 slot. Now, just for the heck of it, set your bios down to PC100 - there should be a setting for that. And finally, if that works, then try both of them - but make absolutely sure that one of them is in the Dimm1 slot.

If both modules are now working, then you wee using the wrong slots before. Some mobos require that Dimm1 is used first. Some mobos also require that certain memory modules are used only in identical pairs. It may not be a bid deal for older 32 and 64 MB modules, but it could very well be a big deal if you're maxing out your slots and the ram capability per slot.

If you get it working with these instructions, then, one last change would be to set the memory back to PC133 - to see if everything will continue to perform at the proper and higher rate of speed. Hope you get it working alright, let us know.


Hey Intel, AMD rulez!


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Response Number 7
Name: PL箍!N然
Date: August 26, 2002 at 09:55:40 Pacific
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Hey, leembo.
No joy :-((
Already tried the each of the new RAM sticks all by themseleves in slot 1.
Did it again just to be sure, still didn't work.

I can't see any option to change to RAM speed in my bios.

I think my computer is just a gold-digger and doesnt' like unbranded RAM. I had this problem when I bought one of the old 64MB sticks, to fix it I had to swap it with a friends RAM when i was fixin' his computer (shhh!!) haha. I still have no idea why it worked in his machine and not mine. I'm sure there's no logical reason!


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Response Number 8
Name: leembo
Date: August 26, 2002 at 15:02:21 Pacific
Reply:

If it is an older board, older defined by being at least 18 months old, or by having an original bios version (look at the flash rom chip) that's at least 18 months old, it is possible that you have plastic jumpers on your mobo, with which to adjust the RAM down to 100 Mhz. of speed. Sometimes, in the bios, there may also be an auto or default setting for the memory. Check your mobo manual real carefully - and look at all of the J and JP descriptions that you can find on it.

PS: (I won't tell . . .)

;D

Hey Intel, AMD rulez!


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Response Number 9
Name: PL箍!N然
Date: August 29, 2002 at 11:10:05 Pacific
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errrrrr, errrrrrrrrrrrr. (I feel like the security guy in "hackers" that doesn't know what a modem is.

I can't really find anythin' like that. I can send you a copy of the manual if you don't mind?!?!?

Thanks.


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