|"Yes, I took the jumper off of the heads that reset the CMOS."|
I gathered that but...
"Did you move the jumper back to the "normal" position?"
"Does that mean that the mobo that I bought (it came three days ago) has the F1 version? "
I don't know. It could have F2 and not support recognizing the cpu properly either.
If the mboard worked fine with the cpu you were using (q8400) when you bench tested it something else may be wrong.
I do know ...
- mboards sometimes sit in warehouses for months or longer after they've been made, so when you bought it may not be significant.
- the date the board was manufactured MAY be on the label on the box the mboard came in. If that date is more than, say, a month newer than one of the updates, then it probably has been flashed with that closest dated update.
- the bios version MAY be on the label on the box the mboard came in,
- or it MAY be on the label on the bios chip, but usually it isn't.
- or, if you have video, it MAY be shown higher up on the on the first black screen as you boot, or it MAY be shown in the bios Setup, or if you see a bios string on the first screen as you boot, it often starts with a date, it's usually at the very bottom of the screen, that's a very good clue (you may have to disable showing the logo screen or turn off Quick boot or similar in the bios in order to see the bios version or the bios string).
Usually you can press the Pause key to stop the boot so you can read what's on the screen, press any key but pause to continue booting.
- you could try finding the serial number of the mboard and emailing Gigabyte about what bios version it's likely to have, but it may take them a while to respond. That's probably on a label on the box the mboard came in, AND on a label on the mboard.
"I could take my Q6600 out and stick it in this one..."
Doing that will not void the mboard warranty, and if that doesn't work something else is wrong. If it does work you should have video, if nothing else is wrong.
- usually you must remove the heatsink before you you can get at the socket lever, or whatever you mboard has - if the Q6600 is"glued" to it, because a thermal pad or a certain thermal compounds was used, it will be difficult to do that - you could try warming up the cpu first by running the computer until it's temp is stable - a damaged thermal pad must be replaced or you use thermal compound or thermal grease instead (thermal grease never "glues" itself to the cpu and heatsink - sometimes thermal compound does). Try unclamping the heatsink, then pressing downwards on the heatsink and cpu while twisting the heatsink back and forth - a thermal pad will usually loosen it's grip eventually, thermal grease will unstick itself, but thermal compoung may have glued itself like crazy glue.
- you MUST remove the AC power to the PS when you fiddle with any connection to the PS or any connection or component for the mboard.
- if you do flash the bios, if the flash fails because the flash chip physically fails, the mboard will not boot, and no warranty covers that. On the other hand, for aGigabyte mboard, it's not likely to fail because of that.
"The other thing: I cannot flash the bios if I cannot see anything on the screen. "
Yes you can, if you use the bootable floppy method, and a command line string with specific switches in Autoexec.bat for the Dosflash utility - in that case it will do it automatically - however, that likely will NOT work if you use a cpu the present bios version has no proper support for while flashing the bios.
Seethe link I just added after this in the above:
"I recommend you use the bootable floppy method. The bios update download includes a Dos flash utility, and most new desktop mboards still have a floppy data cable header."
If you need the command line string with specific switches, I could dig that up, but I need to know or dig up whether it's got an Award or AMI bios.
"Use of licensed AWARD BIOS "
in it's specs.
It's got an Award bios.
- double clicking on the bios update download extracts it's contents to the folder you have the download in by default and shows you that, but you can change the location to A:\ , if that floppy is already bootable, or anything you like.
- the Dos flash utility, Flashspi.exe, included in the bios update download, is a combo Award / AMI one that can flash both types. according to the link I supplied that tells you how to flash the bios varoius ways.
Searched for: flashspi command line switches.
Running only flashspi lists available command line switches.....these are:
/C - Clear DMI pool data after...(flashing?)
/D - Load CMOS defaults after ...(flashing?)
/E - Clear CMOS after...(flashing?)
/R - Reboot System after...(flashing?)
/S - Save Original BIOS ...(before flashing)
(most of those those are NOT the same as the Award switches)
(To confirm the switches for your version of Flashspi are the same - they probably are - make the bootable floppy with flashspi.exe on it, but without Autoexec.bat on it, boot with it, type flashspi, nothing else. If that doesan't give you the list, try flashspi /?, or flashspi /h, a space between)
So, if you wanted to flash the bios without needing video (DO NOT do that when the present CPU has no proper bios support) , you make this line in Autoexec.bat on the bootable floppy, for version F4:
flashspi ep43ud3l.f4 /C /D /E /S
All on one line, a space between all.
I do NOT recommend you use /R, because you MUST be ALERT and EJECT the floppy when the computer auto reboots, otherwise the bios will be flashed again. In that case, without /R, reboot when you see a message the bios was successfully flashed, or at wait at least 5 minutes after the last time the floppy led has flashed if you have no video.
If you DO use /R, then if you miss it re-booting, DO NOT eject the floppy until the flash has finished again, THEN Eject it.
IMPORTANT: If Autoexec.bat already exists, and you need to add or change a line in it, RIGHT click on it and use EDIT - DO NOT double click on it or RIGHT click and use Open - that will RUN it on whatever computer you make it in.
If it doesn't exist, make a text file and Save it as Autoexec.bat.
However, Flashspi will quit if it detects the flash chip is not the right type, or if the I/O chip on the mboard is not the right one or one of possible ones (I'm not sure which or if it's both), so if you make the floppy on an older computer, you are probably in no danger even if you did double click on Autoexec.bat or RIGHT click and use Open. (It quits on my old Epox EP-MVP3-G5, when i do a Dos boot with a floppy; it may quit in Windows in any case).
IMPORTANT: BEFORE you make the bootable floppy...
I have found more recent (newer than ten years old) floppies often have undetected bad sectors on them, when new, or they develop them in a short time.
I recommend you check the floppy you use by Full formatting it, then checking it's Properties to make sure it has no bad sectors