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Name: tonyme7
Date: August 24, 2005 at 07:38:05 Pacific
OS: winxp
CPU/Ram: 1ghz amd athlon 512mb pc1
Comment:

does anyone know how to change a cmos battery where i could find cmos batteries and what steps i should take in making sure i don not have any problems in the future....would i have to do another flash bios etc.... any kind of advice would be helpful..."been having a hard time starting my pc where it just would not power on or not have a video screen when it is on etc.. and noticed my time was off about an hour still doing research on what the problem is coming from maybe cmos"



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Response Number 1
Name: StuartS
Date: August 24, 2005 at 08:32:08 Pacific
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You will find the CMOS battery on the motherboard clipped in place. It is a button battery about the size of a small silver coin. You can get new batteries for almost any computer store or a photographic shop even. The same type of battery is used in cameras. Take the old one with you to the shop as there as slightly different sizes and thicknesses.

You wont have the flash the BIOS. The BIOS retains it information without any power at all. However, you will have to reconfigure your CMOS memory. If you can get into the CMOS now make a note of the settings before you remove the battery. Or alternatively most BIOS have a "Set Optimum Defaults" setting which will work in most circumstances. You will have to re-set the date and time.

The symptoms you describe can be the result of a dud CMOS battery as the battery retains information in the CMOS memory, especially hard disk configuration, which the computer uses to get things started.

Stuart


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Response Number 2
Name: StuartS
Date: August 24, 2005 at 08:34:37 Pacific
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One more thing - when you get the new battery, handle it carefully. Only handle it by the edges, not by the top and bottom. It is possible to discharge a brand new CMOS battery through the fingers.

Take a note of which way it goes in before you removed the old one.

Stuart


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Response Number 3
Name: ham30
Date: August 24, 2005 at 08:46:22 Pacific
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"where it just would not power on or not have a video screen when it is on "

That doesn't sound like a CMOS battery problem to me. It sounds more like a power supply or flakey motherboard connection.


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Response Number 4
Name: tonyme7
Date: August 24, 2005 at 10:19:26 Pacific
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i'm assuming it is CMOS i'm actually hoping it is the CMOS...my pc is having a hard time starting up my power supply is brand new the light on the back of the power supply is on...when the time was off over an hour it gave me the assumption that maybe it is the cmos...wouldn't signs of the CMOS going bad be not being able to turn on the pc or not showing video or havng the incorrect time???


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Response Number 5
Name: ham30
Date: August 24, 2005 at 10:48:51 Pacific
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If the time is lost, that is a very good indication that the battery is gone.
I personally have never run into the case where it caused a booting problem, but I guess it's possible.


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Response Number 6
Name: ham30
Date: August 24, 2005 at 10:52:06 Pacific
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When I said 'booting problem', I meant "where it just would not power on or not have a video screen when it is on".


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Response Number 7
Name: tonyme7
Date: August 24, 2005 at 11:11:59 Pacific
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just would not power on... i had an issue where it did power on but i did not have a video screen ... i guess my question now is what kind of effects occur when you have a bad cmos battery besides date and time being off..


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: August 24, 2005 at 12:43:51 Pacific
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It's not your CMOS battery. How about backing up & starting over. Why did you change the PSU in the 1st place? What make/model/wattage was your old one & what are the specs of the new one? Are you sure you installed & hooked up the new one properly? While you're at it, how about listing your system specs

ASUS A7N8X-X
Athlon XP 1800+
8.5 x 200MHz
1024MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7
Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB
WinME/WinXP Pro SP1


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Response Number 9
Name: tonyme7
Date: August 24, 2005 at 13:44:15 Pacific
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msi k7t turbo limited edition
athlon xp 1ghz
512mb pc 133
winxp service pack 2


i've installed the power supply over 4 months ago wattage on my old was 420 my new one is 500


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Response Number 10
Name: jam
Date: August 24, 2005 at 14:59:20 Pacific
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You said it was a brand new PSU, now you say you got it 4 months ago. Did it work OK for the past 4 months? You didn't say why you replaced it? 500W is overkill for that old setup....if you didn't pay at least $50-75 for the PSU, you may have simply got POS that crapped out on you. And what is a 1GHz Athlon XP? There is no such thing...do you mean 1GHz Athlon (non-XP)?


ASUS A7N8X-X
Athlon XP 1800+
8.5 x 200MHz
1024MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7
Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB
WinME/WinXP Pro SP1


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Response Number 11
Name: itmdtr
Date: August 24, 2005 at 18:26:59 Pacific
Reply:

The easiest thing to do would be to install a new CMOS battery. It wouldn't hurt anything and they are only about $3.


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Response Number 12
Name: tonyme7
Date: August 25, 2005 at 09:53:23 Pacific
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sorry about athlon xp i'm at work so i keep getting interupted ..i switched the cmos now my computer starts up with no problem but freezes on the opening windows screen...then this morning it is not able to detect my HD could this be a short


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Response Number 13
Name: Thomas J
Date: August 27, 2005 at 20:31:12 Pacific
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HI ALL: Do not have any immediate problems with bios but..
With PC connected to AC power (115 v) without monitor, mouse or any other externals connected ..Using proper precautions, insulated tools & mother board covered with insulating material with a hole cut to expose cmos battery..

Can the cmos battery be removed & replaced without causing any changes in existing bios settings....Thanks for your responses..Tom


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