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Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...

Original Message
Name: Leo the 28C (by Sulfurik)
Date: January 12, 2008 at 19:40:43 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
OS: Windows XP x64
CPU/Ram: 2GHz/2GB
Model/Manufacturer: Custom built
Comment:
Hello everyone!

Okay, so to get my HDTV working with my computer I had to get another regular CRT monitor first and then set the nVidia options to use the television correctly... Well, now it works fine, but the screen says "Not Supported" all the way until the Windows welcome screen. So I can't access the BIOS screen if I ever need it...

Anyone know how to fix it? Thanks!

If I connect my microwave to my PC, will I be able to download food? I posted a question, haha


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Response Number 1
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 12, 2008 at 19:51:12 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
Are you cloning the displays? You may have to set them up independently. Are you using the nView desktop manager software? where is the HDTV signal coming from?

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Response Number 2
Name: Leo the 28C (by Sulfurik)
Date: January 12, 2008 at 20:11:42 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
Cloning? No. I just want it to be recognized as a regular monitor...

And yeah, I'm using the manager. And the HDTV is connected through DVI through a HDMI adapter.

Thanks!

If I connect my microwave to my PC, will I be able to download food? I posted a question, haha


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Response Number 3
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 12, 2008 at 20:22:33 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
You need to install the nView desktop manager and then configure the TV as a TV.

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Response Number 4
Name: jackbomb
Date: January 12, 2008 at 20:24:03 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
The TV probably doesn't like the low resolution mode used to display the POST messages/CMOS setup screen. I run into the same problem whenever I try to fullscreen DOSBox on an HDMI-connected projector. Never looked for a fix, though I'd imagine that there is one around.

I do believe that in the olden days, there were adaptors available that allowed 1600x1200-fixed workstation monitors to display low-resolution VGA modes. I have no clue if such a thing exists to enable an HDTV to do the same thing.

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Response Number 5
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 12, 2008 at 20:30:31 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
jackbomb

I have a MBoard with integrated graphics. nvidia 6150. There is a rear bracket that connects to a header on the MBoard that outputs HDTV. If the OP is using that setup then the nView desktop manger should configure as a TV and adjust accordingly. I have never connected a TV to it so I don't know exactly how to set it up but I see the option there.


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Response Number 6
Name: jackbomb
Date: January 12, 2008 at 20:38:53 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
From what I can understand, the OP wants to get into his CMOS setup, but his HDTV won't display anything until the high-resolution Windows desktop comes up.

This most likely means that the HDTV's image processor just doesn't support the very low VGA resolution used during the POST and Windows splash screen.

Since the TV displays the "Not Supported" message up until the Desktop appears, and then works perfectly after Windows boots, his nView settings are already set up the way they should be.

3.2GHz on S939--E.T. no need phone home.
Opty 185 @ 3.2GHz
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Response Number 7
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 12, 2008 at 20:45:46 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
I believe that is because the OP has the TV configured as a Monitor. There are two choices in the software monitor or TV.

Just dawned on me that the OP must be using that as the only display. Still should work though. I have a rear projection TV connected as a second display on an ATI AIW so I can watch recorded programs. The startup screens showup just fine. Settings must be wrong. The card should only display VGA until Windows starts.


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Response Number 8
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 13, 2008 at 13:32:59 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
Hey Leo, bring us up to speed on your issue.

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Response Number 9
Name: Leo the 28C (by Sulfurik)
Date: January 13, 2008 at 17:08:34 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
Leo? You still remember my name? I feel important. =D

Anyway, yes. From what you guys say, the TV doesn't support the low resolutions of BIOS.

Is there any way to fix that? The TV doesn't have that much options to play around with...

Thanks!

If I connect my microwave to my PC, will I be able to download food? I posted a question, haha


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Response Number 10
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 13, 2008 at 17:13:22 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
What kind of connectors are you using on the back of the TV?

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Response Number 11
Name: Leo the 28C (by Sulfurik)
Date: January 13, 2008 at 19:24:33 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
I connect the two (comp and TV) using a DVI-to-HDMI cable. The comp has DVI-out, and the TV has HDMI-in.

Hmm... I can also use VGA or S-Video since both devices have the connections, would that help? I don't mind having both plugged in at once.

Thanks!

If I connect my microwave to my PC, will I be able to download food? I posted a question, haha


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Response Number 12
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 13, 2008 at 19:28:31 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
What is the intended use of the TV display? Why aren't you also using a computer monitor as the primary display? Is there any other inputs to the TV. What HD signal are you going to have available to feed into the TV from the computer?

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Response Number 13
Name: Leo the 28C (by Sulfurik)
Date: January 13, 2008 at 19:42:56 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
I'm using the TV because it's bigger than my old monitor.

The TV has HDMI, S-Video, VGA, component, and composite. I'm using HDMI because it's the best quality... or am I wrong there?

And what do you mean by HD signal? The 720p and 1080i stuff? I think I'm using one of the 1080, but can't remember if it was p or i.

If I connect my microwave to my PC, will I be able to download food? I posted a question, haha


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Response Number 14
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 13, 2008 at 19:58:16 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
My point is this. Why connect to the HDMI port if all you are sending to it is computer output. If you have a HD DVD drive in the computer you are mostly viewing text. Don't think you need HD for that. Do you have an option to setup a TV as the display in your software?

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Response Number 15
Name: Leo the 28C (by Sulfurik)
Date: January 13, 2008 at 20:02:35 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
So you're saying that a VGA cable would be fine?

Thanks!

If I connect my microwave to my PC, will I be able to download food? I posted a question, haha


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Response Number 16
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 13, 2008 at 20:14:50 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
If you have the software called nView Desktop Manager it has the options to set up a second display as either a monitor or a TV.

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Response Number 17
Name: Leo the 28C (by Sulfurik)
Date: January 14, 2008 at 23:28:09 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
But that would be within Windows... I'm talking about BIOS screen here, way before Windows gets a chance to wake up. =/

If I connect my microwave to my PC, will I be able to download food? I posted a question, haha


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Response Number 18
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 15, 2008 at 07:39:56 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
Well, in order to get the nView software working properly you would need to make the right cable connectinons. I think you are using ports that are not suitable for what you are attempting. I ask again, why aren't you using a normal computer monitor for booting purposes. You will find it very difficult to do much when you are on the side of the large TV screen trying to read it. TVs are best suited for viewing movies and TV shows. BTW, cleartype may improve the quallity of the text on the screen.

Use the VGA ports to connect if you really feel the need to use the TV as your primary display. I am pretty confident you will reconsider fairly quickly but you may need to see for yourself. (edit)

If you do as I suggest once in Windows you may be able to run up the resolution and the picture will look better. You just need to try different settings.



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Response Number 19
Name: Leo the 28C (by Sulfurik)
Date: January 15, 2008 at 13:32:50 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
I originally bought the TV because I couldn't read the text in my PS3 games, but now I'm selling that and, why buy a PC monitor if I can use the TV? I thought TVs and monitors were practically the same nowadays...

I'll try buying a VGA male-male cable today and see how well it looks. Then I'll try some settings in the nVidia control panel thingy.

Thanks, OtheHill! I'll get back today when I get that cable. =)

If I connect my microwave to my PC, will I be able to download food? I posted a question, haha


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Response Number 20
Name: Leo the 28C (by Sulfurik)
Date: January 15, 2008 at 19:49:12 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
Okay, I bought a SVGA cable and now I can enter BIOS and all the toys. =)

Plus my Windows resolution is a lot bigger!

Thanks again!

If I connect my microwave to my PC, will I be able to download food? I posted a question, haha


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Response Number 21
Name: OtheHill
Date: January 15, 2008 at 20:07:21 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
Try cleartype.

http://www.microsoft.com/typography...


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Response Number 22
Name: Leo the 28C (by Sulfurik)
Date: January 16, 2008 at 02:03:42 Pacific
Subject: Can't access BIOS using an HDTV...
Reply: (edit)
That helps. =D

If I connect my microwave to my PC, will I be able to download food? I posted a question, haha


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