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Cannot run setup on IBM PS/2 76/77

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Name: RayeR
Date: October 17, 2006 at 04:04:00 Pacific
OS: -
CPU/Ram: 486DX2
Product: IBM PS/2 76/77
Comment:

Hi,
I have got original IBM PS/2 board (also with PSU, riser, cards and some cables). It's most probably model 77 - it have i486DX2/66 CPU and onboard S3 928 VGA.

I tried to run it, and it displays cmos error 161 mesage and ask to run configuration programs, wait about 10s and then restarts. I read that it doesn't have ROM setup but needs diskette. So I downloaded IBM reference disk for model 76/77 but there is other problem releated to FDD.

It also displays message "diskette changle line stuck high". I have original floppy cable and use various 3,5" HD FDDs but all of my 5 drives cause stuck message. But it seems to work, it make short noise when BIOS seek for FDD and light up.

So then I tried to pull drive change (pin 34) signal low during post and then message was not displayed but it sill doesn't boot from ref. diskette. I also tried to press various key combinations like ctrl+alt+ins, esc, f1 etc but no success.

Any idea? Maybe HW damage of FDC?



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Response Number 1
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 17, 2006 at 18:22:10 Pacific
Reply:

I've got a PS/2 model 77. Either F1 or F2 (I was tapping both) produced a setup screen after the memory check.

The 720 and 1.44 drives that came with those micro channel machines weren't very reliable so it may be bad. My 77 came with a 2.88 drive. Of course regular 1.44 disks work fine.

As I recall those drives didn't have a separate power connection--it was part of the floppy cable. So non-IBM drives may not work anyway.

The 161 message may be due to a bad battery


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Response Number 2
Name: RayeR
Date: October 18, 2006 at 02:16:34 Pacific
Reply:

DAVEINCAPS>
Tanks, I'll try it. And the setup come from ROM or it should boot the diskette?

I don't have original floppy drive, only the cable. It have ~50 pin wide connector at one end and three 34 pin floppy connectors at other end. I need to use separate power cable.

Battery seem to be OK, it have 3,08V.


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Response Number 3
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 18, 2006 at 14:53:23 Pacific
Reply:

There was no setup disk in it so it must be ROM. Fdisk shows only the dos partition so I don't think it's like the old compaq's with the setup partition on the hard drive. I can't remember how I originally set it up--whether I used a setup disk or keystroke. It's been 7 or 8 years.

The 161 may be a date/time error. I didn't check but you can probably find out by googling something like IBM bios error.

The model 77 I have is a desktop. IBM also had those towers with 286's, 386's and 486's. I don't remember their model numbers and I have long since gotten rid of any leftovers. (I did keep a few of the 2.88 drives and maybe some 1.44's)

It may help if you can find a site showing the pin-out of the IBM floppy drives and see how they match up with regular drives.


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Response Number 4
Name: RayeR
Date: October 21, 2006 at 15:08:35 Pacific
Reply:

Well, I was noticed that PS/2 uses different floppy connector pinout. Wo I'll need to find it and make right cable.

I tried to press F1, F2 but no SETUP was run.


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Response Number 5
Name: DAVEINCAPS
Date: October 21, 2006 at 20:33:58 Pacific
Reply:

I guess you'll have to get the cable/drive figured out first but #1 on this FAQ has the file names for various reference disks. Those links appear to be dead. You should be able to find them here:

http://www.ps-2.org/ibm-ps2/refdisks/


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