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Name: Lee82
Date: August 30, 2009 at 02:10:56 Pacific
OS: Windows XP
CPU/Ram: P4 / 2gb
Product: Amd / Dual
Subcategory: General
Comment:

Hi

I wish to calibrate my monitor and printer so that what I print looks pretty much the same of what I see on screen, because so far they're miles apart :(

thanks
L



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Response Number 1
Name: StuartS
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:36:06 Pacific
Reply:

You cannot calibrate your monitor with your printer. What you see on the screen and what you get on the printer is entirely dpendant on the the software you are using.

The only time you will get exactly what you see on the screen transfered to the printer is when you do a print screen.

Tell us what you are trying to do and maybe there is a solution.

Stuart


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Response Number 2
Name: Richard59
Date: August 30, 2009 at 03:53:37 Pacific
Reply:

Printer model? Have you played with settings in your printer control interface?

Goin' Fishin' (Some day)


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Response Number 3
Name: Lee82
Date: August 30, 2009 at 04:07:43 Pacific
Reply:

hi again

i've got an HP color cp1515. I usually print from the default Windows Picture and Fax viewer, but I sometimes print from Photoshop aswell...

I've tried some setting from the printer like ICM (image color matching) to be set up either via software or printer, but it still differs from screen. I know theres also some color handling option via photoshop (after file> print) and some printer profile settings which rgb and what not....but i dont know how to mess with these :(


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Response Number 4
Name: wizard-fred
Date: August 30, 2009 at 04:41:35 Pacific
Reply:

Calibration is a whole can of worms. You need standards to reference to. First what is your standard image. Then you must calibrate your monitor under standard room conditions (ambient light, color temperature, monitor color temperature, brightness, contrast, gamma, color balance). Next is your software. If you use various software you have to calibrate each seperately. Then comes the printer settings, and paper and ink and the viewing conditions of the final image. You have to standardize paper whiteness, brightness, reflectivity, finish, absorbency, and opacity. Hope the ink is consistent between batches. After printing hundreds of test charts and color scales you will learn what your printer is capable of. Now you have to match and adjust what you see on the monitor with what you see on print.


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Response Number 5
Name: StuartS
Date: August 30, 2009 at 06:40:04 Pacific
Reply:

If it is colour calibration you are after then yes, as wizard-fred says, its a whole can of worms.

The problems arise becse your monitor uses a addative colour process. That is it adds varying amounts of red, green and blue to produce all the neceaary colours. Equal amounts of red, green and blure produces white. Black is the absence of any colour.

As printer uses a subtrctive method using yellow, cyan and magenta as the base colours. The difference between using light and inks to produce color, known as CMYK, K being black. White is produced by a total lack of ink assuming you are using white paper. Black can be produced on a colour printer without using black ink by mixing all the colours but it often has a green tinge to it. That is why colour printer have a black cartridge as well as tri-colour ones.

Commercial colour printer use the Pantone colour system in an attempt tp match screen and printer for accurate colour representation but even that is not perfect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pantone

Stuart


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Response Number 6
Name: Lee82
Date: August 30, 2009 at 07:55:07 Pacific
Reply:

oh my....so i presume its just isn't that worth the hassle for a home user?

it's sad :(

but thanks for the info :/


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Response Number 7
Name: StuartS
Date: August 30, 2009 at 08:05:34 Pacific
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.so i presume its just isn't that worth the hassle for a home user?

Probably not. Unless you are going to be publishing your photographs in a glossy magazine or exibiting them in an art gallery it is a lot of work.

Some of the top of the range DTP applications have Pantone colour matching built in but they are expensiive.

Stuart


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Response Number 8
Name: Lee82
Date: August 30, 2009 at 08:08:49 Pacific
Reply:

StuartS I only have photoshop, but not the latest version... does that count? it has some printer profiles (loads of them actually)

how can i know which one should I choose?


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Response Number 9
Name: StuartS
Date: August 30, 2009 at 08:46:25 Pacific
Reply:

Photoshop as good but it is is not a DTP application. If it does Pantone you will find about in the help files.

I was thinking more in the lines of QuarkExpress with does do Pantone and costs in excess of $1000.00

http://www.quark.com/pressdetail.as...

Stuart


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Response Number 10
Name: Lee82
Date: August 30, 2009 at 08:57:27 Pacific
Reply:

i see. maybe i'll try a demo or trial if they have; for the sake of comparing printouts - but i'm not spending that much money for color matching.

Thanks for the ur help nonetheless :)


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Response Number 11
Name: wizard-fred
Date: August 31, 2009 at 05:23:29 Pacific
Reply:

For home use first setup the monitor properly. Most monitors are set too bright and with an improper gamma. You want shadow and hilight detail. Then work on the printer. Print at least one good color chart.


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Response Number 12
Name: XpUser
Date: August 31, 2009 at 05:37:42 Pacific
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Remember this ... The color chart will be good until you change ink. Any time you change ink for your printer, you may find yourself getting dramatically different results.

i_Xp/VistaUser


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Response Number 13
Name: wizard-fred
Date: August 31, 2009 at 06:15:55 Pacific
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And paper. You can't print drafts on bond and final on better paper.


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