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Building new computer -- won't boot

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Name: floods_
Date: December 13, 2003 at 17:10:16 Pacific
OS: WindowsME
CPU/Ram: P3 w/128MB RAM
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Building a new machine at the time. It's low end, with a Biostar motherboard, which says this on the side of the box.

M6VLQ-A003 VER:2.1
Video, Audio, LAN
FSB133, PC133, 2DIMM.
ATA-100, Micro ATX

I'm somewhat new to actully building machines, though I've been doing addons etc for a while.

It has a Pentium 3 on it, with 128MB Samsung PC133 RAM. I'm pretty sure I have it all wired fine, although when I start it up, it doesn't do the system-up beep, and the monitor doesn't get a signal.

I know it isn't the monitor, because I'm using the monitor I had connected to it right now to post this message from another machine.

Are there any jumpers I may need to mess with? The only one I see are to wake the onboard LAN, and another to clear the CMOS, like any other MB has..

Just bought a new Power Supply, 350WATT etc so it's not power supply either.

Any ideas? Thanks in advance.



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Response Number 1
Name: darksea
Date: December 13, 2003 at 20:44:17 Pacific
Reply:

Check the CMOS jumper and make sure its not in the clear position.


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Response Number 2
Name: floods_
Date: December 13, 2003 at 21:07:00 Pacific
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It's on the normal position. I thought this was a problem possibly before hand so I tried to clear the CMOS before hand.


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Response Number 3
Name: Fut Nut
Date: December 13, 2003 at 22:58:14 Pacific
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Finding the same problem. Its a POST (power on self test) problem. Try booting with everything unplugged including video, and work your way up with components from there. The key is to listen for beeps. If it beeps once, good, several, then it means either missing ram or video, and so on.



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Response Number 4
Name: floods_
Date: December 14, 2003 at 06:40:17 Pacific
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It never does reach the POST. I first tried booting it because I knew there could possibly be hardware conflicts, but now I'm just kind of lost.

As of now, it has a Quanta 2MB Cache 20GB HDD, 128MB RAM, p3, CD Drive and 3.5" Floppy, everything else is on board.

When it boots, I just hear everything start up, and then it just sits there with the fans and hdd humming.

Could it be because I have one of the case to motherboard switches not plugged? The only one I have on is the Switch wire, because I'm a little confused as to them. The case also has USB wires and sound wires, should I go ahead and hook them up now?

The reason I'm confused about the case wiring, is because some of those wires are just blank on the ends. The one that says PWR SW is obviously the power switch, and the one that says HDD LED is the hard drive led, but there are two wires with nothing written.


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Response Number 5
Name: darksea
Date: December 14, 2003 at 07:07:47 Pacific
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One of the wires is probably for reboot.Your motherboard manual should have a pinout diagram.As stated above,try unplugging your Hdd,CDrom and floppy and see if you can get it to post.As for beeps,make shur your internal speaker is hooked up.


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Response Number 6
Name: floods_
Date: December 14, 2003 at 07:32:27 Pacific
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Could be half the problem.. No speaker came with or to hook up.

The motherboard came with a diagram but nothing about a reboot pin so I'm kind of lost on it, and the case only has one button also. I'll try taking the speaker out of this machine and plugging it in the other and see what I can hear.


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Response Number 7
Name: floods_
Date: December 14, 2003 at 07:46:44 Pacific
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Took the speaker out of this one and put it in the other machine, and it doesn't make any noise at all. If I change the power supply switch to 230V, it does a flange sound and then sounds like some morse code.. don't think it's any kind of system beep though because it does it as soon as I hit the power switch.

Also unplugged everything, no luck with that.

There is one wire sitting there that bugs me, though. It looks different than any of the others.

Coming from the power supply, it is a 6 pin, and is red, orange, orange, black, black, black. Does it HAVE to be hooked up to anything really?


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Response Number 8
Name: darksea
Date: December 14, 2003 at 08:01:36 Pacific
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I may be wrong but I think the wire you are talking about is for a P4 motherboard.One other thing.Check to see if your motherboard isn't shorting out.Make shure there are no standoffs touching the underside of the board other than the ones you have screws in. You can try running it out of the case .Place it on some anti static material.


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Response Number 9
Name: floods_
Date: December 14, 2003 at 08:05:57 Pacific
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It's not the processor I don't think.
Looked at motherboard model specs at http://www.gearxs.com/gearxs/product_info.php?cPath=75_106&products_id=1288

Found it's a socket 370, went to Intel's site and looked up product info for SL5QW and it's says 370 pin so my assumption is that should be okay..

Got some problems out of the window. The HDD works fine, the CD drive works fine, the processor is compatible.

No POST, no beeps, no video.


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Response Number 10
Name: floods_
Date: December 14, 2003 at 08:21:59 Pacific
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Thanks darksea, I'll try that right now and reply back with the results.


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Response Number 11
Name: floods_
Date: December 14, 2003 at 08:39:02 Pacific
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Put it on the anti-static bag it came from, power on and it did the same as it has been, I hear the HDD start spinning, CD spins, then nothing afterwards..


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Response Number 12
Name: floods_
Date: December 14, 2003 at 09:09:55 Pacific
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Guess I could have found something here..

When I power it on, the green LED light in the front comes on along with the orange one, but after a minute or so it just goes off.. I thought it was supposed to stay on?

No manual came with this motherboard so anyone have an idea if this means something?


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Response Number 13
Name: darksea
Date: December 14, 2003 at 09:46:14 Pacific
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Is your CPU fan running,and is it connected to the right header? (Should be marked)
Do you have the right memory and have you tried switching slots?


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Response Number 14
Name: floods_
Date: December 14, 2003 at 09:51:42 Pacific
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Yes, I have tried switching slots.
By CPU fan I'm guessing you mean the one on the processor, and it doesn't have one at all. I do have one in the back of the case connected to JCFAN1 becuase its the only one for it.


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Response Number 15
Name: floods_
Date: December 14, 2003 at 09:55:30 Pacific
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Can't edit posts.. meant to throw this in but didn't think about it.

on the thing that came with the motherboard that has a layout of it etc, it says SDRAM memory sockets (DIMM1-2).
I have the RAM in DIMM1, but how could I find out if it is SDRAM or DDRAM?


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Response Number 16
Name: darksea
Date: December 14, 2003 at 09:58:47 Pacific
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You will find the manual for your board at this site.
http://www.biostar-usa.com/docsmain.asp


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Response Number 17
Name: floods_
Date: December 14, 2003 at 10:06:04 Pacific
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Yep, just got the manual thing about the time you posted it, though it doesn't do much good because everything in there is pretty much what's already known.


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Response Number 18
Name: darksea
Date: December 14, 2003 at 10:22:19 Pacific
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You say you have Samsung memory? Go to the Samsung site and see exatly what you have.It has to be PC-100 or PC-133 SDRAM,unbuffered,non ECC.


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Response Number 19
Name: Alan
Date: December 14, 2003 at 15:11:27 Pacific
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If you are saying you don't have a fan on your CPU then i would think it will be fried by now, a CPU must have cooling.

Alan..


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Response Number 20
Name: floods_
Date: December 14, 2003 at 16:39:31 Pacific
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I haven't been leaving it on, just switching it on while attempting to do anything and then immediately switching it off. I think it was already fried. I got this computer from a friend and learned the power supply and motherboard was friend, so the processor would usually be right along with it. Be glad if the RAM is ok..


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Response Number 21
Name: wire
Date: January 14, 2004 at 21:15:09 Pacific
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i stumbled on this discussion because i have a m6vlq right out of the box from newegg that is having the same problem. i bought it to replace a compaq board from a presario that started behaving the same way. i have backtracked all the way down to just the mobo and a speaker and nothing. it fires up, the psu fan comes on, cpu fan on (when connected), and when i jump the power jumper for about 3 seconds, it shuts off, but other than that, both of them nothing. im hoping it is not the bios and maybe the board so i can rma it. i also read that it could be the heatsink not seating properly. right now i am running a duron 1.2 on it, and have tried 9 sticks of ram, double sided, single sided, buffered, non buffered, 32mb - 256mb and nothing. anybody has an answer or suggestions, cool!



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