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Name: Deepword
Date: September 27, 2002 at 20:04:27 Pacific
OS: 98se
CPU/Ram: AMD 1.4
Comment:

Hello

Do any of you Build computer for sale and if so. what does it cost you to build it and what do you sell it for?
A friend of my wife want me build her a computer and I said sure. But after pricing the parts and software.
I was thinking of telling her about Dell 699.00 Computer and Mon
MB=55.00-sou,lan
hdd=78.00-40g
cpu=54.00-1600
Mem=45.00-256-2100
case=60.00
cdrom=25.00
Flo=15.00
Video card=35.00
modem=25.00
O/S=130
What would you guy do?



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Response Number 1
Name: RJ
Date: September 27, 2002 at 20:15:42 Pacific
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I have built systems in the past. Every time I do it ends up being the same price as if I had just gone out and bought one. The advantages are: you get exactly what you want, you can upgrade without voiding warranty, it can be fun! Disadvantages: No warranty, no free software, no rebates. From the looks of your list you have found some deals. I would still get the Dell.


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Response Number 2
Name: dsbal
Date: September 27, 2002 at 20:16:55 Pacific
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Well, you're kind of comparing apples to oranges, aren't you? Yes, with the Dell you have a unified warranty on the whole machine, and tech support. But if you can troubleshoot on your own, remember that by building you can control the quality of EVERY component you put in there, and that, to me, is worth far more than anything.


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Response Number 3
Name: Ez
Date: September 27, 2002 at 20:30:02 Pacific
Reply:

You didnt mention if you want to make a profit on this macine?? It is hard to make profit when Dell offers a p4 for 699 with software and programs to an average user. Not to mention tech support .Anyways I Still think making your own is defenetly better as you can upgrade and choose better drives and cards if thats your thing.Ive been building systems for some time now and i will always prefer to make my own.Another thing to consider is how upgradable is a brand name computer and will you really use tech support i called Dell one time and felt like I knew more than the tech.So its really up to her to decide i guess...


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Response Number 4
Name: RJ
Date: September 27, 2002 at 20:34:23 Pacific
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these guyz are right, deepword, if it was for you defintely build it. for someone else--maybe someone who is less tech savvy, maybe get the Dell.


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Response Number 5
Name: boojum
Date: September 28, 2002 at 08:17:45 Pacific
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The cheapest Dell I could configure at their website with a P4 1.8, the 3 year warentee (which is the only same reason to buy from one of these companies), no monitor, no XP Office, was about $700. This is a piece of junk of computer. The power supplies they put on these minitowers are pathetic, the boards have integrated graphics, etc. I just put together for someone a system with a 100$ 350watt Antec case, an Athlon XP 1800+, XP Home, a geforce2 GTS 32MB DDR, 256MB of Crucial DDR, an MSI mobo, a 40GB ATA133 Maxtor quietdrive, 6 fans, a 32X writer, for $667 total with shipping factored in. There is usually at least a 100$ tax and/or shipping charge you have to factor in with these prices at Dell etc, so the total on this dell would be at least $750 (probably more like $800-$850). And for what? An underpowered piece of crap Tech support at these companies isn't worth a nickel let alone $160. You can put together a machine a lot cheaper than you can buy one if you know where to shop online.


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Response Number 6
Name: Ez
Date: September 28, 2002 at 09:21:20 Pacific
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Thats good to know boojum Thanks for doing the reserch. I knew that there was a catch on those Dell systems. I personaly never eaven considered buying a brand computer once i learend to make my own.I kinda had a feeling that there was something like that involved.Whimpy power supply, onboard video and other devices nevermind....I also agree on what you said about tech support its mainly for people who dont know a thing about a pc.They just keep you on the phone as long as they can to benefit them..I was on the phone with them once and after about 20 min of usless help i hung up and fixed the problem on my own . The only reason i called was because the person wanted and needed help and they had warranty.I guess Deepworld should explain this to his wifes friend and really let her decide.


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Response Number 7
Name: Ez
Date: September 28, 2002 at 09:28:11 Pacific
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Oh by the way were do you shop on line boojum im looking for a good supplier with a nice selection that wont chrge a whole lot. I could start doing reaserch but if you know of a good site and would like to share it please do so..It would eliminate alot of time on my part. Thanks


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Response Number 8
Name: Francisco
Date: September 28, 2002 at 12:51:23 Pacific
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Ez, I buy in newegg.com....good prices, fast shipping and a premium customer service.RMA? no problemo. The prices are fair (average to cheap)....you can get good deals as OEM versions of Windows when you buy hardware. Even games....Warcraft III retail is 29.99 vs 60 at best buy.
You can't go wrong with those guys.


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Response Number 9
Name: mike
Date: September 28, 2002 at 13:46:49 Pacific
Reply:

unless the person that wants the pc is a serious gamer and is going to be upgrading constantly then you are wasting your time.


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Response Number 10
Name: boojum
Date: September 28, 2002 at 15:49:49 Pacific
Reply:

I agree with Francisco, Newegg.com is the way to go. I keep looking for better places but have yet to find one.

The one good reason to go with Dell which I failed to mention is that when you build a computer for someone else, especially for profit, you end up feeling responsible for it later on if there's a problem. If you really don't want to be this person's tech support, might want to go with an OEM. If you don't mind helping him/her out, I'd build it. Better yet, give them the choice. Go to Dell and print out the specs vs costs, then go to newegg.com, decide what pc you want to build, then you can show them the difference, and then they can decide for themselves. The best reason to build yourself is not so much to get a computer a lot cheaper but to get a lot better computer for the same price or less.

I'd beware of selecting the cheapest components just to get a great barbain dollar-wise because the one you make won't be any better than the one you get from Dell for $800. If someone's budget is so low it won't allow me to build a high quality PC for them, I won't do it. Doesn't have to be blazing fast to be a good computer.

Checkout newegg.com. You can check out their customer satisfaction rating at www.resellerratings.com. It's a good thing to check out online companies there. Some companies have very good prices but when you look at their ratings you see why, they only deliver half the time. Newegg has very loyal customers.

It's not just a problem with upgrading a minitower budget type pc. Have you ever tried frinding a replacement micro-atx powersupply locally when they die (which they have a habit of doing--check out all the PS's for Emachines/minitowers being sold on Ebay)? Budget OEM PCs have a away of using somewhat off-standard components that are hard to find and replace. Post back or start a new thread when you've settled on your components and ask if people think it's a good choice. You'll get a lot of repsonses.


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Response Number 11
Name: XxxFrancisxxxUSA
Date: September 28, 2002 at 21:20:54 Pacific
Reply:

Be warey.

If you want a P4 then Dell's deal is acceptable.

But still, it has only 128 meg (I see they give a free upgrade to 256 meg at the moment).

If you don't know what you are doing, then you best stick to the retailers with support and warranties.


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Response Number 12
Name: boojum
Date: September 28, 2002 at 21:27:17 Pacific
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Imagine running a P4 1.8 on a 200 watt PS because that is the biggest micro-atx I've ever come across (with a 7200 rpm HD as well). Most are 145-150 watt. If your friend does go with Dell, at least avoid the budget minitowers.


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Response Number 13
Name: Deepword
Date: September 29, 2002 at 09:05:21 Pacific
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I wanted to say thank for all of your opinion.
I will let my wife friend know about dell and that she would get a better deal from them for what she want to do. more or less get on the internet and do paper work. No gaming

Thank to all

ps Newegg.com is the best online or offline


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Response Number 14
Name: Pat
Date: September 29, 2002 at 15:27:45 Pacific
Reply:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/

has good deals also


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