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Name: Sebastian42
Date: July 10, 2007 at 06:14:02 Pacific
OS: Win2K
CPU/Ram: 770MHz; 256Mb
Product: IBM NetVista
Comment:

How can I get around the problem of not having a setting in BIOS that allows the boot sequence to start with the floppy drive or the CDrom ? The o/s is Win2K and does not allow access to anything much without the (missing) password, so I want to re-install an operating system.
Basty



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Response Number 1
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: July 10, 2007 at 06:36:50 Pacific
Reply:

A laptop that has passwords you don't know is virtually useless unless you want to spend some bucks to fix that situation. See this recent thread, especially response 10:
http://www.computing.net/hardware/w...


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Response Number 2
Name: Sebastian42
Date: July 10, 2007 at 08:22:55 Pacific
Reply:

Thank you Tubesandwires. In case it matters, it's a desktop, not a laptop.


Basty


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Response Number 3
Name: Sabertooth
Date: July 10, 2007 at 09:15:20 Pacific

Response Number 4
Name: Jennifer SUMN
Date: July 10, 2007 at 11:51:45 Pacific
Reply:

Either remove the password jumper and reboot then replace the jumper; or, remove the battery for a short period of time. Then reboot and change the boot order.

Life is more painless for those who are brainless.


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Response Number 5
Name: OtheHill
Date: July 10, 2007 at 15:59:15 Pacific
Reply:

Sabertooth's links seem to yield a solution. Number two link is quite clear.


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Response Number 6
Name: Sebastian42
Date: July 11, 2007 at 02:29:26 Pacific
Reply:

Response #4 - 'password jumper' - is that an item on the motherboard ? The jumpers on the HDD are for setting whether or not slave, master, cable select, as far as I know.

It's my inability to change the boot order that led me to approach Computer.Net I can NOT find any entry in BIOS that allows me to influence boot sequence.

Basty


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Response Number 7
Name: OtheHill
Date: July 11, 2007 at 05:04:26 Pacific
Reply:

Did you read the threads that were linked in #3 here?


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Response Number 8
Name: Jennifer SUMN
Date: July 11, 2007 at 12:49:16 Pacific
Reply:

Sorry. I thought you were referring to a BIOS password. There will be a place to set the boot options.

Perhaps if you tell us what options you see...

Life's more painless for the brainless.


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Response Number 9
Name: Sebastian42
Date: July 11, 2007 at 20:49:29 Pacific
Reply:

Resonse#7
My comment stands - but AFTER I wrote that, I followed the 2nd of the 3 URLs (the more likely one) and sure enough I discovered that I could get access to the boot sequence in BIOS and as a result, that PC is now running WinXP ! Thank you VERY much.

Basty


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Response Number 10
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: July 11, 2007 at 21:50:24 Pacific
Reply:

"In case it matters, it's a desktop, not a laptop."

I assumed the computer you were talking about is the one in specs in your first post, and was fairly recent (I missed the 700mhz). Most Net Vistas these days are laptops. You should have stated the model number in the first post. IBM has been using the Net Vista name for a long time, and IBM/Lenovo is still using it.

"Response #4 - 'password jumper' - is that an item on the motherboard ? The jumpers on the HDD are for setting whether or not slave, master, cable select, as far as I know."

Most desktop mboards have a jumper, usualy labelled on the mboard and named in your mboard manual Clear Cmos or similar, you can move to two different pins of three, or off of or onto two pins, to clear the settings made by the user in the cmos part of the bios chip; when you move the jumper back to it's original position your bios is set to default settings. Some don't have a jumper or pins for that, but have solder dots where pins would normally be, and you short the two dots, or certain dots of three, to each other for a short time to remove the cmos contents. Some mboards additionally have another jumper, usually labelled Password or similar, usually close to the Clear Cmos jumper, you can similarly move to clear only the passwords, but that is not common. Both jumpers are usually close to the bios chip.
You are supposed to wait a minimum time before you move a jumper back to it's original position in order to give the contents a chance of clearing completely - e.g. at least 5 minutes.
In any case, it is recomended you unplug the computer or remove the AC power to it so the contents you want to clear, clear faster.
Any computer PS has large capacitors that can store charge for awhile after the computer is off, and ATX PSs are always powering the mboard in some places as long as there is live AC to the PS - both those things can delay clearing the cmos or password.

What would be the point of having a jumper on the hard drive that you could remove to remove a password? - it would be too easy to do so.
Obviously it is easy to remove a password or clear the cmos on most desktop computers - that isn't the case for more recent laptop computers.


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