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Boot Problems w/Biostar GF7050V-M7

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Name: brandonbwt
Date: July 14, 2008 at 08:11:28 Pacific
OS: WinXP
CPU/Ram: Intel Core 2 Extreme
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Good morning sages of computerdom! I come asking for wisdom.

I've been attempting to put together a small form factor PC for my father (this has been a delayed Father's Day gift). The computer set up is as follows:

MB: Biostar GF7050V-M7
HDD: Western Digital Caviar 160GB IDE
RAM: 2GB Mushkin HP2-PC6400
CPU: Intel Pentium E2180
CDROM: Pioneer DVD-ROM
Case: Apevia X-QPACK2-NW-AL (micro ATX)
GPU: mobo onboard (NVIDIA)
Display (used for testing): Dell 2408WFP (VGA port)

With the above setup, I began putting the computer together. The Apevia case included temperature LCDs for the hard drive and CPU as well as a 500W power supply.

After assembling the pieces and putting 1 2GB stick of RAM into the box, I made sure all of the power connectors were correctly on the board, then pressed the power button. The fans started running, CD-ROM drive started spinning, HDD started spinning, then......no video output nor any system beeps to acknowledge a successful boot (or a problem for that matter).

Over the course of several hours, i swapped in 3 other RAM sticks (all Mushkin HP2-6400 sticks, all 2GB size) to see if i might have had a bad stick of RAM. No luck with getting any sort of output to the monitor after 4 different pieces of RAM (of which i know they all work b/c i memtested them before beginning this project).

I tried disconnecting individual components (CD-ROM, HDD, etc) to no avail. The motherboard BIOS would not even give me the slightest video output signal. Subsequently, I sent the board back to Newegg.com via an RMA and patiently waited for a replacement.

However, the problem I'm encountering now lies in the fact that I received the replacment mobo (same model) last week, and tried to re-assemble the computer again this weekend. After reassembling all of the pieces, still no video output from the motherboard video connection. I again repeated the piece by piece removal process to find the faulty hardware....again, to no avail.

After scouring the internet for a bit, I found some tech help sites talking about how this specific Biostar mobo will not boot initially to an IDE drive. However, none of the threads I could find ever found any resolution to this issue. Does anyone have any knowledge of this problem with these motherboards?

I ask you, the combined computing knowledge of Computing.Net, can anyone find any steps that I am forgetting or procedures I am missing in assembling this computer? I currently need to install Windows XP onto a freshly formatted IDE HDD, and cannot get any sort of video signal from the motherboard during the POST process. I've worked in a static-free environment during assembly and do not believe that I have damaged the hardware in any way.

I am leaning towards the replacement mobo being defective, but if anyone has any suggestions, please please comment!

Thanks!



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Response Number 1
Name: guapo
Date: July 14, 2008 at 09:52:14 Pacific
Reply:

Support DDR2 667/800 MHz

That's the memory required by the mother board.


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Response Number 2
Name: brandonbwt
Date: July 14, 2008 at 10:51:04 Pacific
Reply:

Guapo,

Thanks for taking the time to read and reply. However, I'm not sure that I exactly understand your message.

So far as I know (from the tech specs at least), the 2GB Mushkin stick(s) i used in the comp are DDR2 & 800Mhz.

Could you clarify what your reply means?

Thanks!


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Response Number 3
Name: jam
Date: July 14, 2008 at 12:25:57 Pacific
Reply:

You should ALWAYS benchtest before assembling components within a case. I recommend that you remove the board from the case & start from scratch. See responses #2 & 3 in the following thread:

http://www.computing.net/answers/ha...


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Response Number 4
Name: guapo
Date: July 14, 2008 at 16:56:53 Pacific
Reply:

I was trying to say that your memory has to match those specifications. If it doesn't, the thing won't run.


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Response Number 5
Name: brandonbwt
Date: July 15, 2008 at 09:35:53 Pacific
Reply:

Jam,

Thanks for steering me towards the bench test. However, after bench testing it 3 times with 3 different pieces of working, compatible RAM modules, as well as a boot up with no RAM to see if the RAM was causing the non-POSTing behavior, I've come to the conclusion that this mobo is probably dead also. I'm returning it today and have already snagged a Gigabyte replacement. If i have any more problems, i'll come back here for advice.

Thanks for everyone who had suggestions!


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Response Number 6
Name: brandonbwt
Date: July 21, 2008 at 04:56:18 Pacific
Reply:

Update (7/20/08):

After receiving the new Gigabyte motherboard from ZipZoomFly, I proceeded to do another round of bench testing.

Setup: the mobo is sitting on a non-conductive rubber mat, and only the CPU, heatsink fan, primary board power cable and 1GB of Crucial RAM are installed. The motherboard's VGA out is connected to a Dell WFP 2408 LCD monitor set to the VGA input.

Again, the bench test resulted in absolutely no video output to the monitor. (note: i connected an ancient comp I had around [ATI X800 graphics card with VGA out only] to the monitor with a VGA cable to see if it was the cable or monitor, and the POST messages came through perfectly fine on the LCD in VGA)

In order to see if i somehow had a bad processor, I went to a local Fry's yesterday and purchased an brand spanking new Intel E4600 Core 2 Duo to test in the setup.

During multiple iterations of the bench test with the 6 different sticks of RAM (4 2GB sticks [Mushkin], 2 1GB sticks [Crucial]), the board fails to POST even once. When I press the power button, everything appears to be starting up correctly mechanically, but no video output or POST messages of any kind are present. I even hooked up the Audio connectors and internal speakers to see if I could get a beep error code, but no audio output was present either.

I am seriously coming to my wits' end with this machine. After trying 2 separate Intel processors, 3 motherboards and 6 different sticks of RAM (all in an ESD-free area and all the boot failures coming during bench testing!), I still am baffled as to why it will not POST. I also find it highly unlikely that I've received 3 DOA motherboards from 2 separate companies, consecutively.

Does anyone have any ideas for what might be causing my problem?


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