Solved BIOS not loading, though I reset the CMOS.

Gigabyte Ga-h77-ds3h atx intel motherboa...
October 4, 2016 at 09:41:50
Specs: Windows 7, I5 - 3570/8gb 1600 mhz
I use a gigabyte h77-ds3h(rev 1.1). Since the beginning my pc would get stuck at the gigabyte mother board menu ( press del to enter BIOS andfew other things displayed in that menu). I could never open the BIOS though I've tried using all the keys in all possible ways. After about 3mins from turning the power on ( 2 mother board beeps) at the third beep windows would load. When ever I attempted to enter the BIOS my screen would go blank after the 3 beeps instead of Windows loading. I needed to change some settings, so I reset my cmos ( both by using the jumper and removing the battery) to gain access to my BIOS. After the reset windows won't just load, and it ends up with the blank screen, with numerous attempts. I have been as specific as possible. On one of the forums advice I removed the CMOS battery for the whole night so that the charge completely gets drained. I am writing this as I remove the battery for the night. Can any of you help?
Note : I used the p2 keyboard. Used only one memory stick. CMOS battery not a problem as Windows always loaded.

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#1
October 4, 2016 at 10:35:25
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First things first. The link below will help you understand how the BIOS works. There is a link at the top of that page for support. You can access the manual by clicking on it.

The correct keystroke is the Del key. You must start continuously tapping the Del key as soon as you start up the computer.

Slow boot time may be caused by the BIOS trying to configure the hardware. Did you ever install the drivers off the CD that came with the Motherboard?

Once you are in the BIOS you need to adjust some settings. Time and date first. Then boot order.

Read the manual. Especially the section on the DUAL BIOS on that board.

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/pr...


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#2
October 4, 2016 at 10:55:07
Thanks for the quick reply. I'll re-read the manual like you asked me to. I assumed that reseting the CMOS would do the trick, because of which I just glanced through the dual BIOS part in the manual earlier. I did use the delete key but it didn't do it. About installing the drivers, I got the pc made by a local dealer when I had a broken knee, so dint pay too much attention to the details as all I cared was to just game at that point. I can't go back to him because the shop got shut. Will check the drivers once I get the pc to work again. My only worry is that windows used to load before the CMOS reset and now it's just a black screen. Thank again, will keep you updated.

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#3
October 4, 2016 at 12:30:07
Could be something as simple as the date in the BIOS causing the problem.

If you NEVER see any screens, even at startup, then you may have a hardware issue.

Did you unplug the computer when you cleared the CMOS (BIOS) by using the clear CMOS jumper? BTW, it only takes a second to clear it. However, the computer must not be under power while performing the clearing.

Let us know if you now can enter the BIOS screens. If I understand what is happening you do see POST screens but then when Windows should start, you see only a black screen? Do you see a flashing cursor at that time?


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#4
October 4, 2016 at 21:18:21
At the first flicker of the screen start tapping the Del key, at about the post screen you should get a beep or click if there is a board speaker installed. At that point you can probably stop tapping but it may take a tiny bit longer to get into BIOS, If you start too late then you missed the opportunity. If you are using a TV for monitor you may not see post soon enough so you may need to start tapping immediately after pressing the power button.
If you are getting any other beeps then you will need to look them up in your beep chart.
Once in a while the RAM contacts need to be cleaned with a soft clean pencil eraser, then you need to pop them in and out 4 or 5 times to burnish the contacts clean as well. BIOS will not work (and Windows will not work) if RAM is not working properly.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#5
October 4, 2016 at 21:28:00
Will follow what you asked me to. But if it was a problem with the ram, then why was windows loading before cmos reset. Thanks a lot, help much appreciated. Will keep you posted once I'm done with all the fixes that you suggested.

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#6
October 12, 2016 at 03:02:28
Sorry I took this long to follow up. My father advised me to take it to an expert. So I contacted a local technician with good ratings on his website. He said it was a chipset problem and that by replacing it he solved the problem of the bios not opening. But he claims that when he plugged my graphic card* Nvidia gtx 650 ti * the chip set would get damaged, not too sure what the exact problem was as this conversion was over the phone, may be a short circuit. Basically he fixed the initial problem but my graphic card doesn't work now. The only thing that bothers me is that the graphic card completely worked fine prior to me giving him the pc. Performed really well, no voltage problems. Is there a chance that the technician might have messed with the card???!? Also I will let you guys know exactly what he did to fix the board once I talk to him, incase that helps you in the future. ( I'm really sorry that I dint give you guys the complete specification initially).

Due to this I have decided to build a new machine as I it's affecting my CAD job.
Here are the specs :
Gtx 1080 evga ftw
Asus rog maximus 8 formula
Corsair 780t
I7 6700k
Corsair h110i
Samsung Evo 850 500 GB ssd
2tb hdd @7200 rpm
G skill trident 16 gb 3200 MHz
Corsair 850i power supply.

Thought I should let you know, suggestions appreciated. If you think I'm mixing two things up on the same post I'm really sorry, just excited about the new build. I mentioned CAD because I need the rig to work some CAD tools like solid works /Catia. Considered getting the new haswell board but I'm way over my budget already. Note : mainly for gaming but should be able to work cad tools.

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#7
October 12, 2016 at 03:30:29
@OtheHill exactly. When I'm supposed to see windows loading , I see a blank screen. No cursor.
I could see the cursor before the CMOS reset. Only when trying to enter bios. Else windows would load.

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#8
October 12, 2016 at 07:15:50
So then, the computer is not working now using on CPU graphics?

Was the Gigabyte system previously doing what you needed?

If so, you shouldn't need to build a new system.

Were you previously using the Nvidia card in the system? If so I am not sure why the tech thinks you can't use it now. Did they indicate they found physical damage to the card?

You have a dual BIOS board. The manual should explain what that means and how to utilize the feature.

Are you sure that you used the correct jumper to clear the BIOS? Did you have the computer unplugged while doing that?

We can also review you specs for a new CAD system at the same time.


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#9
October 12, 2016 at 10:20:40
The computer is not with me right now. Now I'm going to answer everything you asked in points.
1. The computer currently works on the internal graphics of the cpu.
2. The gigabyte system just about did what I needed professionally ( CAD ). Not so much with games. So I stuck to playing cs go mostly. Though it did a decent job running farcry 3, advanced warfare low to mid settings with acceptable to no lag.
3. Yes I was previously on the Nvidia card and it did a great job. I played some games just before I decided to reset CMOS.
4. I have no idea what he's done to the card and I'm really dissapointed as none of the applications/games work with out it, at the level I require.
5. I specifically asked him if there was physical damage, to which he said NO.
6. The only thing he mentioned was, when he connected the Gpu, the chipset would get damaged because of voltage fluctuations. When I told him that I've never had those problems and he said how some other part in the Gpu was not functional. ( not mentioning any thing more specific).
7. I've extensively read the manual, I mentioned the dual bios concept to him, to which he paid no heed. He made the let me do my job face. I thought he knew what he was doing.
7. I'm 100 % sure I used the right jumper to clear the CMOS. Read the manual, watched you tube videos, etc etc. The power was always disconnected when I attempted to clear CMOS. I've also successfully cleared the CMOS on an other older pc.
8. The reason I'm thinking about getting a new pc is because until a few months ago I was in college and it was CAD as per the curriculum and a bit of designing at internships. Now it's full time work and I'm provided with a work station at work. But I work a fair bit at home as well.

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#10
October 12, 2016 at 11:33:15
I suggest you install CPUID/HWMonitor. Get it from the link below. use it to check system temperatures and more importantly, voltages. You have a good power supply but anything can fail. The 3 important voltages are the 3.3V, 5V and +12V. All values should read +- 5% of the stated values. You can run HWMonitor in real time from the tray near the clock. If voltages are stable and within the 5% then you could try installing the graphics card. Conversely, you could purchase the newer card you listed and try it without going to a different motherboard and CPU.

Not trying to dissuade you from upgrading but you may not need to at this time.

Going back to the Dual BIOSes again, you may have inadvertently switched over to a second BIOS. It may not have had the proper settings saved to it. That is why I mentioned looking at the manual.

Seems like you only issue right now is that you are using crappy integrated graphics. An add is card, either your current one or an upgrade should solve your issues.

Your original post was about not getting into the BIOS screens. I assume that was due to late keying of the Delete key? You now can enter the BIOS screens?

I am not positive your current Nvidia graphics card is OK to use but I think checking the voltages under power will tell you something.

http://filehippo.com/download_hwmon...

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#11
October 12, 2016 at 12:14:08
According to my technician plugging the Gpu into the motherboard results in the chipset to be damaged. At this point I do not know if it's specific to my computer. I'm thinking about heading to the technician's place when I find time, and check the Gpu voltages using HW monitors on one of his spare motherboards.
Coming back to the original problem, the bios never opened since I bought my PC way back in 2012. But after a while I gave up trying . It was not the delay in pressing the del key. I've tried it way too many times to be making that mistake.
According to the technician it's fixed. I can confirm it once he returns my pc. A quick chat with him will help me figure out what the problem was and what he did to fix it. Worst case scenario I'll upgrade my Gpu as you suggested. Really appreciate your help. Thank you :)

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#12
October 12, 2016 at 12:34:17
If you were using that same GPU before and it didn't damage the chipset then what changed? If the card is damaged then don't install it anywhere. The issue is that GPU had been working but you weren't able to enter the BIOS to make changes. The Nvidia card, when installed correctly will override the onboard graphics. During the boot process, the display settings will be VGA or SVGA. After booting into Windows the card will display the resolution you have set.

Are you using a USB keyboard?

The best. and possibly the only method to enter the BIOS screens is with a wired PS/2 keyboard using no adapters. Your motherboard has a PS/2 port. Once in the BIOS you may find a setting to enable legacy USB support. That will allow you to use a wired USB keyboard to enter the BIOS.

Try HWMonitor to verify your power supply is doing its job correctly.


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#13
October 12, 2016 at 20:44:51
To use USB keyboard for entering BIOS set up, you need it plugged into a USB jack on the rear and directly directly on the chipset, not one that might be run through a hub, internal hub (including many front ports), or expansion USB controller chip. Some motherboards expand the number of USB ports using a third party USB controller on the motherboard, especially the USB3 ports so use one of the USB2 ports if available.

Look carefully to see if you can confirm that the GPU that is in your system is the exact one that was in there before. I am not accusing anyone but it is possible that trading a non-working GPU with yours would solve someone else' issue or make him more money by charging two people for a single graphics card, especially if you decided to purchase a new one from him.

You have to be a little bit crazy to keep you from going insane.


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#14
October 13, 2016 at 22:17:53
I used a ps/2 keyboard while trying to enter the bios after reading quite a few forums asking me to do this. And that dint work as well. The same thing is bothering me as well, that the GPU initially worked with out damaging the chip set. And now it isn't . Sounds fishy, at least to me. I will try the HW monitor ASAP. note : will not plug the Gpu if its damaged.

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#15
October 13, 2016 at 22:21:09
I suspect some foul play as well. I use a gtx 650 ti 1gb. Is there any way to confirm that the GPU is actually mine. I do not have the box it came in. Though I have one picture of it. But it doesn't show the whole card.

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#16
October 14, 2016 at 19:56:07
Did you register the card with the manufacturer?

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#17
October 22, 2016 at 22:47:42
Hi guys I finally got my pc back. It works perfectly fine, with reinstalled os and drivers. All he had to do was change the chip set apparently. It boots faster than ever. According to him who ever made the pc dint set it up properly. The graphics card doesn't work anymore. He used a hot gun to resolder it as last resort with my permission. Got my old graphic card back and it looks like mine. What a perfect time for the gtx 1050 to roll out.
I have a transcend 8gb 1600 MHz ddr3 plugged into the mother board. Also I have a brand new corsair vengeance 8gb 1600 MHz memory stick. Is it okay if I plug them in to check if they'll work together. I'm yet to check the detailed specs of both the memory sticks.
Really appreciate your help guys. THANK YOU :)

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#18
October 23, 2016 at 08:08:16
In addition to the speed of the RAM you also need to check the required voltages for both. When running RAM in dual channel it is best to buy matched stick for compatibility on ALL specs. The model of the RAM stick is usually printed on a sticker. The chips on the sticks have numbers too, which in your case are not important.

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