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I built a computer roughly 8 months ago and ever since I built it has been freezing blue screening restarting in odd places and under large CPU loads especially. Now I always thought that it was because it was overheating or something was incompatible. So I upgraded everything, BIOS, drivers, windows, fans, case and still no result though a major improvement. Now my system never exceeds 125F with the fan at 2400 revolutions. Then I thought about incompatible issues. I ran memory test, endless system diagnostics tests. All these tests came up clean. I was able to play games the largest load on system for about an hour before the system froze.
Today it can play a game for about 20 minutes until it freezes. Now I believe strongly that the issue is a bad mother board. Why? When I first installed the board maybe it was a bit sketchy on quality and I didnt notice it until now. It is an ASUS K8V-X and I have heard that quality control of ASUS has decreased. Though I also heard it was a very good board- one of the reasons I brought it. So anyways maybe it was something in the board that slowly degraded over time and it is slowly getting worse.
This is my first build ever so I am just shooting in the dark now upon what is wrong because I have little past experience and have tried everything else I can think of or read. Perhaps I touched or hit or didn’t ground myself properly when I installed the board. It could be any number of issues there, but that doesn’t really matter now.
So I am asking if it could be a bad mother board, perhaps one of you computer experts has had an issue like this in the past and knows a solution before I spend $80 on a new board.
Thanks for any input on this topic. This forum has helped me greatly and I appreciate the continued help.
ASUS K8V-X
1 gig RAM,
Redaon 9250
AMD 64 3400 Athlon
Thermaltak SVKing Case
Zalman CNP Heatsink

In a sense, your MB is bad---that is if the problem is what I think it is: bad RAM Sockets.
I have a laptop with the EXACT same symptoms you described. It would freeze randomly, especially on CPU intense applications, and would get real hot sometimes.
After a long search, it was the RAM sockets. Thank God I had only 1 stick of RAM in the laptop. Moving it from slot 1 to slot 2 fixed the problem. I am typing on the same laptop now, and it has never ran better.
So, if you have 2 sticks of RAM installed, take 1 out, and leave the other in. Use the computer for awhile. If you still get the problems, take that stick out, and install the opposite module in the opposite slot.
It helps us out if you keep us posted. So please do that if you can,
Hope it helps!
May God bless everyone along the Gulf Coast trying to recover from Katrina. But let this be a lesson for America to turn back to God.

I hate to see people just arbitrarily replacing stuff without taking the time to properly diagnose the problem. Sounds like a weak power supply to me. What's the make/model/wattage & how many amps are on the +12v rail?
ASUS A7N8X-X
Athlon XP 1800+
8.5 x 200MHz
1024MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7
Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB
WinME/WinXP Pro SP1

I agree with the PSU. But you should set the system to post the BSOD and then post the error it gives you when the system halts. Right click on My Computer>Properties>Advanced>Startup and Recovery Settings and take the check mark out of Automatically Restart and then make sure Send and Administrative Alert and Write an event log have check marks in them. Next time your system halts write down the error and Post it here.
<===Lefty===

Thanks for all the quick and though responses.
So the first thing I did is the RAM switch. My board does not allow me to start with a RAM slot in the second slot- it kept freezing up.
Second thing was the PSU. I have a 450W one I am unsure of make or model but it was around $50 though newegg. I also do not know how many amps or on my 12v rail. Sorry about this one I don’t know much more than W. Does it say anywhere else?
Third my computer was already set to receive/save dumps. But I have no idea upon how to open them. Why are they so big? Mine are close to 1 gig. When it blue screens it sayings saving to disk then counts 1,2,3... is this supposed to happen.
Thanks again for any help.
ASUS K8V-X
1 gig RAM,
Redaon 9250
AMD 64 3400 Athlon
Thermaltak SVKing Case
Zalman CNP Heatsink

"My board does not allow me to start with a RAM slot in the second slot- it kept freezing up."
What exactly does this mean? Does it freeze the same way it does before? If so, that's your problem: The second ram slot is bad. Leave 1 stick in the first slot and see what happens.
It could be the PSU, but I thought I'd better start with the RAM thing so you won't have to go out and spend more money just yet.
May God bless everyone along the Gulf Coast trying to recover from Katrina. But let this be a lesson for America to turn back to God.

I too am having these same problems with my computer. I just now tried switching the RAM to a different slot and have been told before that it was my PSU, although I have yet to buy another one. anyway, my 12v rail is running at 11.71v idle. not sure what this means but I hope it helps.

Hi Blaine, did the RAM switching work for you?
May God bless everyone along the Gulf Coast trying to recover from Katrina. But let this be a lesson for America to turn back to God. We have forgotten Him by turning to drugs, sex, and other stuff.

Yes- ray96 my first test was to see if it was incompatible RAM so I put just one stick in the first RAM slot it still froze up- there are a total of 3 RAM slots the first one is blue and mobo guide says I have to place them in order- first one full then second and so forth. This makes sense since it froze when I placed RAM only in the second slot.
My 12V rails runs at 11.648 if that helps. I originally had a 350W for computer but upgraded to 450W because it was quieter and more powerful and did reduce the amount of the amount of freezes.
Thanks for the all the help.
ASUS K8V-X
1 gig RAM,
Redaon 9250
AMD 64 3400 Athlon
Thermaltak SVKing Case
Zalman CNP Heatsink

Ok, yeah some motherboards you have to install the RAM in sequence, yet there are others that don't require them to be installed in sequence - which is why I suggested that in the first place. I didn't know whether your board is one or the other.
Did upgrading the PSU get rid of all of the freezeups?
May God bless everyone along the Gulf Coast trying to recover from Katrina. But let this be a lesson for America to turn back to God. We have forgotten Him by turning to drugs, sex, and other stuff.

No upgrading the PSU did not get rid of all the freezes. Though there was a decrease after new PSU.
If this helps one of the blue screens "is your system has halted to prevent damage please call..." the other one is "usb_bug_code…” not quite sure on exact text on that I can look more into it if you think it would help.
I used to receive "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL" but after reinstallation of windows that when disappeared.
Also how do you read/open memory dumps?Thanks once again for the responses.
ASUS K8V-X
1 gig RAM,
Redaon 9250
AMD 64 3400 Athlon
Thermaltak SVKing Case
Zalman CNP Heatsink

is your system has halted to prevent damage please call..." -this si usually caused by either an incorrect bios setting or you have the bios set to stop the system if it gets to a temp deemed too high. What temp is your cpu running at?

My system temp never exceeds 120F- typically maybe a few degrees over while gaming (until it freezes) the fan running at 2400 revolutions.
My system is creative- it does more than just freeze- sometimes it restarts, other times just freezes (keyboard locks out and all) or blue screens. What could be wrong in the BIOS (it is fully updated), what setting?Also looking at other related issues that may or may not be related to my issue and blainie.
http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=51591&pid=486699&st=0entry486699
(I already tried clearing my CMOS- no difference)
ASUS K8V-X
1 gig RAM,
Redaon 9250
AMD 64 3400 Athlon
Thermaltak SVKing Case
Zalman CNP Heatsink

I still don't rule out a bad RAM socket. But since your MB only allows you to install RAM in sequence, there's no way to find out for sure. Your symptoms mimick the same symptoms I had with my laptop when I found out that it was one of my RAM sockets.
May God bless everyone along the Gulf Coast trying to recover from Katrina. But let this be a lesson for America to turn back to God. We have forgotten Him by turning to drugs, sex, and other stuff.

Oh yeah, also try removing all expansion cards like modem, ethernet, tv card, etc. Leave your graphics card in. If the problems are still going on, try switching your graphics card with another one if you have it.
Also, did your computer behave like that the reinstallation of XP?
May God bless everyone along the Gulf Coast trying to recover from Katrina. But let this be a lesson for America to turn back to God. We have forgotten Him by turning to drugs, sex, and other stuff.

Auctally it worked better for a short period time right after I put it together. Then it slowly become worse and worse.
The reinstallation seemed to improve the system slightly. I only have a graphic card and that is for my mointor.
I think I will look at my board very closely someday when I have time for any defects that I can see. Otherwise I think it may be a sad fact but I think it is a bad mobo/ RAM slot.
Thanks for your all your help ray96.ASUS K8V-X
1 gig RAM,
Redaon 9250
AMD 64 3400 Athlon
Thermaltak SVKing Case
Zalman CNP Heatsink

Sure, you're very welcome. Hope you get it working.
May God bless everyone along the Gulf Coast trying to recover from Katrina. But let this be a lesson for America to turn back to God.

Oh yeah, one more thing: Do you have anything connected to any USB ports? Even though you didn't know the exact text, you said something about "usb_bug_code" in that error you described. I would remove any USB devices, and also any printers you may have, because ANYTHING could be the problem -- even though I still think one of the RAM sockets may be bad.

Yeah I removed all USB- no luck.
ASUS K8V-X
1 gig RAM,
Redaon 9250
AMD 64 3400 Athlon
Thermaltak SVKing Case
Zalman CNP Heatsink

Oh well. I'm out of ideas now except bad RAM Sockets/Bad Motherboard.
Hope you get it working. Bye for now.

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