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Name: adyst
Date: September 20, 2006 at 06:20:36 Pacific
OS: XP Professional SP2
CPU/Ram: PIV 3.2/1Gb
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Hi!

I'm writing you because I've got problems with my ASUS 1604P DVD Writer.
The thing is it never writes DVDs at full speed and even the CDs I buy get written at whatever speed the thing wants.
No matter if I buy DVDs that say 16x or 8x, the maximum speed the writer works at is 4x. That's the max speed I can select in the dropdown in Nero 6.6.1.4., even though I know that the speed should be up to at least 16x.
At first this didn't annoy me that much, but now that I'm writing more DVDs, it takes up to 15 mins for one, so I am really looking forward to hearing any kind of advice on how to get my hardware to work at the designed speed.

Any advice is much appreciated!

Thanks!

Ady



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Response Number 1
Name: Kurt S
Date: September 20, 2006 at 08:03:25 Pacific
Reply:

Are you putting the disc in the drive before or after you have selected the burn speed?


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Response Number 2
Name: DocMemory
Date: September 20, 2006 at 14:18:33 Pacific
Reply:

Try going to Start / Control Panel / System / Hardware / Device Manager / IDE ATA-Atapi Controllers and right click on the IDE channel to which the DVD burner is attached. Select Properties then go to the Advanced tab and look at the Transfer Mode setting. If it is not running in UDMA mode 4 then you will not get full speed from the burner.

If it is not on UDMA 4 then determine if you are using a 40 or 80 conductor cable for the drive. You need the 80 conductor to achieve UDMA 4.

If you do have an 80 conductor cable and you are running in PIO or a low UDMA mode (i.e. 2) then this could be your problem.

There is a Microsoft KB with info on this that indicates the only way to 'repair' is to delete the offending IDE channel and reboot which resets the transfer mode.

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=...

You might also note which mode is detected by the BIOS during boot up as the screens flash by.

Hope this helps.

"Two roads diverged ina wood, and I -- I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference."
R. Frost


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Response Number 3
Name: adyst
Date: October 6, 2006 at 07:13:05 Pacific
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Hi, I'm sorry for writing back so late, but it's only now that I've had time to look into this matter again. I've done what you've said and I'm running UDMA 2 indeed. So you were right.
The problem is that I can't do anything to raise the UDMA level and the BIOS is also telling me I can only go as high as 2, so I'm thinking the only possible answer is I have a 40 conductor. (I've also tried deleting the channel and rebooting - to no effect.)
However upon inspection, I discovered the cable is the original ASUS IDE cable. Could they have been stupid enough to supply me with a 40 cable in the original package? Could be.
The question now is how can I tell if it's really a 40 or 80 cable and if it's an 80 one, what else could be wrong?

Thanks a lot for the advice!

adyst


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Response Number 4
Name: DocMemory
Date: October 6, 2006 at 15:00:08 Pacific
Reply:

If you have a 40 conductor IDE cable then if you examine the cable you will be able to count the number of ridges (conductors) accross the cable if there are 40 then you have a 40 conductor cable. If they are very fine and if you have the eyesight to count them an 80 conductor will have 80 ridges.

If you do indeed have an 80 conductor cable I am afraid I am at a loss as to why you are only running in UDMA 2 mode. The only thing I can suggest is a BIOS upgrade but that is a shot in the dark. I have an ASUS MB (A7V133) bought in 2000 that runs my DVD burner in UDMA 4 and though I have the latest BIOS for the board it is only dated 2003.

Let us know if its a 40 or 80 conductor.

Good Luck

"Two roads diverged ina wood, and I -- I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference."
R. Frost


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Response Number 5
Name: adyst
Date: October 9, 2006 at 05:08:07 Pacific
Reply:

Hi!

I've checked the cable and it's a 40. I just got off the phone with the manufacturer of my system and I'll get an 80 today. I guess this'll do the trick.

Thanks a lot for helping me out!


adyst


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Response Number 6
Name: adyst
Date: October 10, 2006 at 01:56:42 Pacific
Reply:

I've changed the cable. Now the two devices on that cable work on UDMA 4 and UDMA 2, respectively. The DVD writer works on 4, so I suppose the writing speed should be ok. I've also upgraded my nero to version 7.

Thanks again for your help!

adyst


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Response Number 7
Name: adyst
Date: October 10, 2006 at 04:11:17 Pacific
Reply:

Huge bummer.

So UDMA is 4 and everything should be peachy, but I tried to write a 52x CD and nero 7 said 32x (which is max for the writer) but when I inserted the CD it suddently changed to 10x max. I am not only frustrated but also completely in the dark...

I think it could also be some kind of system which the writer uses to asses which CD is fit for what speed, I heard about that some time ago, but I thought it was just rumors. So basically I don't know whether my writer has that and if it does, how it can be turned off.

I don't know whether something can be done. Maybe I should contact ASUS for technical support. Do you have any other ideas?

adyst


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Response Number 8
Name: DocMemory
Date: October 10, 2006 at 14:04:49 Pacific
Reply:

You are right in that most burning programs check the 'quality' of the blank media to determine how fast to write to it. I would not turn it off myself as it can cause write errors when it is burnt.

I have seen problems with cheap discs when trying to burn at full speed in spite of what the discs are labelled or detected as.

My first choice would be to buy a name brand disc to try (I have had very good luck with TDK).

Get some 'name brand' discs and try them first and let us know the results.

FYI - This old bomb (Athlon XP 2100+) will burn 4.2 gig at 16x on a TDK DVD in about 10 minutes with an additional 5 or 6 minutes for verify.


"Two roads diverged ina wood, and I -- I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference."
R. Frost


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Response Number 9
Name: DocMemory
Date: October 10, 2006 at 14:18:02 Pacific
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Another thought, after Nero reduced the speed to 10x did you then check to see what transfer mode you are running in?

If Windows has reduced the transfer mode then it may be your system that is the culprit.

On this old machine I had to change the power supply to keep Windows from reducing the transfer mode.

"Two roads diverged ina wood, and I -- I took the one less travelled by, and that has made all the difference."
R. Frost


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Response Number 10
Name: adyst
Date: October 11, 2006 at 04:56:39 Pacific
Reply:

OK,

so I buyed a case of 10 TDK DVDs labeled 16x. I though maybe not 16, but at least 8x would be available. However as soon as I inserted the disk, the only option available in the dropdown was 4x. Not even 1 or 2x, only 4.
I ejected the disk, selected 16x, inserted it again and, yes, 4x was back.
I also checked the UDMA setting and it was 4, before and after nero and also before and after the disk was inserted...

I'll try some more ideas (not sure what yet) and I'll write back.

adyst


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Response Number 11
Name: adyst
Date: October 11, 2006 at 05:38:26 Pacific
Reply:

HI!

It works! (at least for now!).
I downloaded an updated version of the driver and internal software for the writer. The program updates the drivers for xp and also does internal flashing.
Now the speed is 16x and I can finally write right :)

If anyone else needs the link for firmware, they should try the link below, since the official ASUS page is always over-crowded and works really-really slow.

I'm glad I could finally get to the bottom of this.
Thanks!

adyst

http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/FI...


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