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Amd Athlon Vs. Intel Pentium 4

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Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 16, 2005 at 20:41:33 Pacific
OS: WinXp Home
CPU/Ram: Celeron D 2.93/512 MB
Comment:

Hi I am thinking of upgrading my computer, my motherboard and my cpu.So i was going to go with the gaming theme so i was debating should i get a AMD Athlon 64 3700+.
Heres the specs:


Processor Speed
64 3700+ / 2.20GHz
Processor Interface-Socket 939
Processor Class-Athlon 64
Cache Size-1MB L2
Bus Speed-2000MHz
Additional Technologies-HyperTransport


Vs.

The intel pentium 4 560 3.6 Ghz W/Hyper Threading. Heres the specs:


Processor Speed-560 / 3.60GHz
Processor Interface-Socket 775
Processor Class-Pentium 4
Cache Size-1Mb
Bus Speed-800MHz
Additional Technologies-Hyper-Threading

Please help im looking foward to upgrading.
thank you in advance


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Response Number 1
Name: jerry6
Date: October 16, 2005 at 20:58:19 Pacific
Reply:

AMD all the way . i have a 3.2 ee and a amd 3200+ 64 and the amd blows away the intel


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Response Number 2
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: October 16, 2005 at 21:01:08 Pacific
Reply:

It's pretty well documented the AMD Athlon 64's work a lot better for gaming. Looks like your video card could use the upgrade more though...

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Response Number 3
Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 16, 2005 at 21:52:27 Pacific
Reply:

so the AMD is the way to go for gaming and i plan on getting a G-force 6800 GT (would get 7800 Gt, but to expensive.)

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Response Number 4
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: October 16, 2005 at 21:57:44 Pacific
Reply:

Yep. Get an NForce4 Ultra based motherboard. DFI makes good boards these days.

Keep in mind a 3700 is overkill. The 3000 right now works great for a mere $150 and can be overclocked like mad. With an NForce4 Ultra mobo, you can upgrade your CPU to an FX55/57 or X2 dual core later when they're more affordable.

THe DFI LanParty NForce 4 Ultra-D is a great motherboard especially in overclocking.

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Response Number 5
Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 16, 2005 at 22:10:19 Pacific
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so what your saying is that i should get a 3000+ instead of a 3700+. seems weird that you would want me to upgrade. you might as well go ahead and get the 3700+ for the future. then overclock that to keep up with the future games,instead of buying a $1,000 CPU.(Athlon 64 fx-57)

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Response Number 6
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: October 17, 2005 at 04:12:17 Pacific
Reply:

I'm saying you're not gonna see a whole lot of difference between the two when overclocking, so why spend $120 more for one of them. However, when games become optimized for dual core, you will see a difference upgrading to dual core.

I will say this though. If you're gonna buy something better than an Athlon 64 3000, I would get the 3700. Its real advantage is more L2 cache.

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Response Number 7
Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 17, 2005 at 05:26:59 Pacific
Reply:

so the 3700+ is the buy here.

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Response Number 8
Name: cakonopka
Date: October 17, 2005 at 08:37:21 Pacific
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yeah lookin at it yeah, ill admit i have got my 3000+ overclocked with a cheapish fan too to 2.5ghz, which is even over the 3700 but i dont have the 1mb cache qwhich is useful, if u got the money get the 3700, u can always overclock that and get some major speed.

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Response Number 9
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: October 17, 2005 at 09:59:23 Pacific
Reply:

In my opinion, unless you're doing heavy media work, like video editing, etc. the extra cache doesn't make much difference. So personally, I'd take the 3000 and spend the $100 on something else or pocket it for an upgrade to X2 or the FX-57 next year.

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Response Number 10
Name: jam
Date: October 17, 2005 at 12:02:58 Pacific
Reply:

3000+ Venice
DFI nF4 Ultra Infinity
6600GT 128MB PCI-e
2 x 512MB PC3200 (or better if you wanna overclock)

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Response Number 11
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: October 17, 2005 at 15:04:05 Pacific
Reply:

If heavy into overclocking, you may want to get the LanParty NForce4 Ultra-D board from DFI instead of the infiniti, but yeah, that's what I'd do.

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Response Number 12
Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 17, 2005 at 16:23:29 Pacific
Reply:

ok i heard that certain graphic cards require a certaing processor. is any one of the processors listed in this thread is good with the G-force 7800GT. i want optimal performance. any of the three listed:

AMD Athlon 64 3700+
AMD Athlon 64 3000+
or
Intel Pentium 4 560 3.6 Ghz W/Hyper Threading
Thank you

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Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition


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Response Number 13
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: October 17, 2005 at 16:27:38 Pacific
Reply:

If you're gonna spend $500+ on a graphics card, then get the Athlon 64 3700. I think both are a waste of money, but those two would be the best performing of the three. Spending $500 on a graphics card without backing it with a high end CPU is pointless.

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Response Number 14
Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 17, 2005 at 16:44:16 Pacific
Reply:

so is this some good hardware selection

http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Shopping/shoppingcart.asp?submit=view

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64 Mb Graphics Chip
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Response Number 15
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: October 17, 2005 at 17:04:54 Pacific
Reply:

That link isn't gonna work just by looking at it... LOL...

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Response Number 16
Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 18, 2005 at 15:14:01 Pacific
Reply:

Wasup are to lazy to copy and paste to look at the hardware selection?

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Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition


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Response Number 17
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: October 18, 2005 at 16:21:04 Pacific
Reply:

Good news! I took a look at your parts you had at newegg and found them for $100 cheaper at another site!

Check it out!

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ShoppingCart.jsp

Tell me what you think!

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Response Number 18
Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 18, 2005 at 19:18:49 Pacific
Reply:

it says please enable cookies

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Response Number 19
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: October 18, 2005 at 21:45:30 Pacific
Reply:

Riiiiiiiight. Guess I wasn't lazy was I?

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Response Number 20
Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 19, 2005 at 15:56:15 Pacific
Reply:

okay a few more questions, how is the ATHLON Better than the PENTIUM 4 3.20 HT(P4 is faster and it has a bigger cache) Also what does hyper-threading in the p4 do?

And the Absolute buy. So i can buy it next week.

Hp Pavillion a1010n
Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition


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Response Number 21
Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 19, 2005 at 16:01:22 Pacific
Reply:

does it speed up stuff like creating archives with WinRar? and dvd ripping.

Hp Pavillion a1010n
Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition


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Response Number 22
Name: cakonopka
Date: October 20, 2005 at 14:12:07 Pacific
Reply:

hyper threading basically tries to make use of the cpu doing more than one operation at once. Sadly works a bit but isnt brilliant but is useful.

AMD Athlon 3000+ 64bit OC-3400
Asus A8N-SLI MB
1GB DDR 32002X 512MB
2X SLI Asus 6600GT Cards
200GB SATA Hard Drive


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Response Number 23
Name: Ron (by aarongroves103)
Date: October 25, 2005 at 07:08:02 Pacific
Reply:

I have a Dfi Lan Party Ultra D and it over clocks my AMD 3000 64 winchester chip like a dream...with stock cooling only ive had it stable AT 2.7 Ghz.

AMD all the way...



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Response Number 24
Name: joya
Date: November 2, 2005 at 06:18:33 Pacific
Reply:

Yes above comments are correct the AMD wins hands down the P4 dont get a look in

and you will be 64bit ready too

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