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Amd Athlon Vs. Intel Pentium 4
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Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 16, 2005 at 20:41:33 Pacific
Subject: Amd Athlon Vs. Intel Pentium 4OS: WinXp HomeCPU/Ram: Celeron D 2.93/512 MB |
Comment: Hi I am thinking of upgrading my computer, my motherboard and my cpu.So i was going to go with the gaming theme so i was debating should i get a AMD Athlon 64 3700+.
Heres the specs:
Processor Speed
64 3700+ / 2.20GHz
Processor Interface-Socket 939
Processor Class-Athlon 64
Cache Size-1MB L2
Bus Speed-2000MHz
Additional Technologies-HyperTransport
Vs.
The intel pentium 4 560 3.6 Ghz W/Hyper Threading. Heres the specs:
Processor Speed-560 / 3.60GHz
Processor Interface-Socket 775
Processor Class-Pentium 4
Cache Size-1Mb
Bus Speed-800MHz
Additional Technologies-Hyper-Threading
Please help im looking foward to upgrading.
thank you in advance
Hp Pavillion a1010n
Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition
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Response Number 2
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Reply: (edit)It's pretty well documented the AMD Athlon 64's work a lot better for gaming. Looks like your video card could use the upgrade more though... Help survivors of Hurricane Katrina. Please donate to the American Red Cross.www.redcross.org
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Response Number 3
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Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 16, 2005 at 21:52:27 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)so the AMD is the way to go for gaming and i plan on getting a G-force 6800 GT (would get 7800 Gt, but to expensive.) Hp Pavillion a1010n
Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition
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Response Number 4
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Reply: (edit)Yep. Get an NForce4 Ultra based motherboard. DFI makes good boards these days. Keep in mind a 3700 is overkill. The 3000 right now works great for a mere $150 and can be overclocked like mad. With an NForce4 Ultra mobo, you can upgrade your CPU to an FX55/57 or X2 dual core later when they're more affordable. THe DFI LanParty NForce 4 Ultra-D is a great motherboard especially in overclocking. Help survivors of Hurricane Katrina. Please donate to the American Red Cross.www.redcross.org
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Response Number 5
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Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 16, 2005 at 22:10:19 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)so what your saying is that i should get a 3000+ instead of a 3700+. seems weird that you would want me to upgrade. you might as well go ahead and get the 3700+ for the future. then overclock that to keep up with the future games,instead of buying a $1,000 CPU.(Athlon 64 fx-57) Hp Pavillion a1010n
Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition
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Response Number 6
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Reply: (edit)I'm saying you're not gonna see a whole lot of difference between the two when overclocking, so why spend $120 more for one of them. However, when games become optimized for dual core, you will see a difference upgrading to dual core. I will say this though. If you're gonna buy something better than an Athlon 64 3000, I would get the 3700. Its real advantage is more L2 cache. Help survivors of Hurricane Katrina. Please donate to the American Red Cross.www.redcross.org
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Response Number 7
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Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 17, 2005 at 05:26:59 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)so the 3700+ is the buy here. Hp Pavillion a1010n
Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition
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Response Number 8
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Name: cakonopka
Date: October 17, 2005 at 08:37:21 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)yeah lookin at it yeah, ill admit i have got my 3000+ overclocked with a cheapish fan too to 2.5ghz, which is even over the 3700 but i dont have the 1mb cache qwhich is useful, if u got the money get the 3700, u can always overclock that and get some major speed. AMD Athlon 3000+ 64bit OC-3400
Asus A8N-SLI MB
1GB DDR 32002X 512MB
2X SLI Asus 6600GT Cards
200GB SATA Hard Drive
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Response Number 9
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Reply: (edit)In my opinion, unless you're doing heavy media work, like video editing, etc. the extra cache doesn't make much difference. So personally, I'd take the 3000 and spend the $100 on something else or pocket it for an upgrade to X2 or the FX-57 next year. Please help survivors of Hurricane Katrina.www.redcross.org
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Response Number 10
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Name: jam
Date: October 17, 2005 at 12:02:58 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)3000+ Venice
DFI nF4 Ultra Infinity
6600GT 128MB PCI-e
2 x 512MB PC3200 (or better if you wanna overclock) ASUS A7N8X-X
Athlon XP 1800+
8.5 x 200MHz
1024MB PC3200 2.5-3-3-7
Asus A9550GE/TD 128MB
WinME/WinXP Pro SP2
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Response Number 11
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Reply: (edit)If heavy into overclocking, you may want to get the LanParty NForce4 Ultra-D board from DFI instead of the infiniti, but yeah, that's what I'd do. Please help survivors of Hurricane Katrina.www.redcross.org
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Response Number 12
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Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 17, 2005 at 16:23:29 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)ok i heard that certain graphic cards require a certaing processor. is any one of the processors listed in this thread is good with the G-force 7800GT. i want optimal performance. any of the three listed: AMD Athlon 64 3700+
AMD Athlon 64 3000+
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Intel Pentium 4 560 3.6 Ghz W/Hyper Threading
Thank you Hp Pavillion a1010n
Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition
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Response Number 13
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Reply: (edit)If you're gonna spend $500+ on a graphics card, then get the Athlon 64 3700. I think both are a waste of money, but those two would be the best performing of the three. Spending $500 on a graphics card without backing it with a high end CPU is pointless. Please help survivors of Hurricane Katrina...err...Rita. Starting to lose track...www.redcross.org
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Response Number 14
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Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 17, 2005 at 16:44:16 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)so is this some good hardware selection http://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Shopping/shoppingcart.asp?submit=view Hp Pavillion a1010n
Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition
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Response Number 15
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Reply: (edit)That link isn't gonna work just by looking at it... LOL... Please help survivors of Hurricane Katrina...err...Rita. Starting to lose track...www.redcross.org
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Response Number 16
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Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 18, 2005 at 15:14:01 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Wasup are to lazy to copy and paste to look at the hardware selection? Hp Pavillion a1010n
Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition
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Response Number 17
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Reply: (edit)Good news! I took a look at your parts you had at newegg and found them for $100 cheaper at another site! Check it out! http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ShoppingCart.jsp Tell me what you think! Please help survivors of Hurricane Katrina.www.redcross.org
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Response Number 18
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Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 18, 2005 at 19:18:49 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)it says please enable cookies Hp Pavillion a1010n
Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition
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Response Number 20
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Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 19, 2005 at 15:56:15 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)okay a few more questions, how is the ATHLON Better than the PENTIUM 4 3.20 HT(P4 is faster and it has a bigger cache) Also what does hyper-threading in the p4 do? And the Absolute buy. So i can buy it next week. Hp Pavillion a1010n
Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition
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Response Number 21
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Name: bigbwoi2000
Date: October 19, 2005 at 16:01:22 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)does it speed up stuff like creating archives with WinRar? and dvd ripping. Hp Pavillion a1010n
Asus P4GV-LA Motherboard
Intel Celeron 2.93 GHz
160 Gb Hard Drive
512 pc3200 Mb of Ram
64 Mb Graphics Chip
Windows Xp Home Edition
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Response Number 22
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Name: cakonopka
Date: October 20, 2005 at 14:12:07 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)hyper threading basically tries to make use of the cpu doing more than one operation at once. Sadly works a bit but isnt brilliant but is useful. AMD Athlon 3000+ 64bit OC-3400
Asus A8N-SLI MB
1GB DDR 32002X 512MB
2X SLI Asus 6600GT Cards
200GB SATA Hard Drive
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Response Number 23
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Name: Ron (by aarongroves103)
Date: October 25, 2005 at 07:08:02 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)I have a Dfi Lan Party Ultra D and it over clocks my AMD 3000 64 winchester chip like a dream...with stock cooling only ive had it stable AT 2.7 Ghz. AMD all the way...
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Response Number 24
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Name: joya
Date: November 2, 2005 at 06:18:33 Pacific
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Reply: (edit)Yes above comments are correct the AMD wins hands down the P4 dont get a look in and you will be 64bit ready too "Kernrel Panic"
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