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Altering 80 wire ide cables

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Name: doc is back
Date: February 28, 2004 at 15:19:03 Pacific
OS: xp pro
CPU/Ram: plenty
Comment:

Anyone have any suggestions are information on easy ways to alter 80 wire ide cables? Do they make special tool for the job. Just want to move the connectors. Would it hurt anything to have three connectors on one ribbon even if you just use two connectors?



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Response Number 1
Name: StuartS
Date: February 28, 2004 at 16:01:24 Pacific
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What are you trying to achieve? Ther are already three connectors on an IDE cable; one for the motherboard and two for hard disks.

Unless you have a cable with facilities for one hard disk. If this is the case I would buy an new cable. They are cheap enough and chences of not getting it right a very high.

Stuart


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Response Number 2
Name: doc is back
Date: February 28, 2004 at 16:12:49 Pacific
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I am talking about three componet connectors. New cables arent the configuration that I want and I am working with a full size server tower. Another question would be also is maximum ide cable length? What will be the result of a cable length greater than 18 inches and what would be the maximum length for ide cables.


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Response Number 3
Name: StuartS
Date: February 28, 2004 at 17:10:09 Pacific
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You cannot have an IDE cable with more than the three connectors as described earlier. Each IDE socket on the motherboard supports two hard disks and no more.

18 inches is about the maximum length for IDE cables. You can get 24 inches cables but they are unreliable. Because of the speed of the data going through the cables there would be an increase in errors.

The following will give you a lot of information on IDE cables:

http://www.dansdata.com/rcables.htm


Stuart


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Response Number 4
Name: doc is back
Date: February 28, 2004 at 17:28:16 Pacific
Reply:

I know you can only use two connectors but I was really wanting to know if I could have three and let one hang not used.


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Response Number 5
Name: chrisman7 (by chrisman.7)
Date: February 28, 2004 at 18:19:46 Pacific
Reply:

80 wire ide cable whats that?

are yousure that it isn't a scsi cable if it is then you can buy them with more connectors

and they support more if you have the right type of scsi controller

if ther is such athing as a 80 wire ide then give me a lesson


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Response Number 6
Name: chrisman7 (by chrisman.7)
Date: February 28, 2004 at 18:24:16 Pacific
Reply:

oh its an ata ide cable

only two hdd's to a cable.
but you can get an add on ata controller.
or just about any controller for that fact this would take care of that.
raid5 is cool with ata


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Response Number 7
Name: anenefan
Date: February 28, 2004 at 18:59:00 Pacific
Reply:

Hi

Following on from Stuart had said and your response #4. The best reason to hang up this idea of yours is 80 wire ide is also cable select as part of the 80 wire specification. The master must be at the end of the cable and the slave at some min /max distance from the end.

Following on from chrisman.7 -- a pci ide / or scsi adapter card is something you might want to consider.


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Response Number 8
Name: egkenny
Date: February 28, 2004 at 21:02:19 Pacific
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Both 40-conductor and 80-conductor IDE cables use the same 40-pin connector. The extra 40 conductors on a 80-conductor IDE cable are additional ground wires that were added to make the data signals more stable. 40-conductor cables are still OK for CD drives and hard drives up to ATA-33. ATA-66 and higher hard drives require the 80-conductor IDE cable. If you try to hook up a hard drive that is ATA-66 or higher to a 40-conductor IDE cable then your computer should force the drive to work at ATA-33.


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Response Number 9
Name: StuartS
Date: February 29, 2004 at 04:22:26 Pacific
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chrisman.t

>>if ther is such athing as a 80 wire ide then give me a lesson<<

Read the article I posted in Post 3


Stuart


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Response Number 10
Name: chrisman7 (by chrisman.7)
Date: February 29, 2004 at 06:07:58 Pacific
Reply:

my response #6 reiterates


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