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I posted this message in one of my old threads but I dont know if anyone will get it there.
I was looking at ATI radeon 9600xt's and sapphire radeon 9600xt's but I'm not entirely convinced they'll work in an AGP 4x 2.0 slot. I emailed ATI about it and, like good tech support people, they gave me a link to the specs. Specs! why didnt I think of that?!... frickin waste of email...
BFG's good. Their specs specifically say AGP 2.0 and their tech supporters specifically say "yes, it will work". But apparently an nvidia 6600gt oc is too much for me and 6200s are no good. Too bad they dont deal with ATIThis is what ATI's specs for a radeon 9600xt say about AGP:
"...or compatible with AGP 4X (1.5V), 8X (0.8v) or Universal AGP 3.0 bus configuration (4X/8X). "Looks like that means it will work in my 4x 1.5v 2.0 slot, but AGP is messed up, and lines like that are open to interpretation.
I just want to be sure before I spend the money and open something I cant return. I want to know if a Sapphire 9600xt card will run in AGP 2.0, too, since most 9600xt's I can find are Sapphire's. Even ones just listed as ATI Radeon 9600xt's turn out to be Sapphire. So I'm thinking there's a good chance I could end up with a Sapphire no matter what I think I'm ordering. If those are 2.0 compatible then no worries, but their specs are about 4 lines long. Not sure if specs for one card apply to anything with that chipset.
So anyone know anything about Sapphire/ATI radeon 9600xt's being AGP 2.0 Compatible?
The answer is right there in your thread !!!
"...or compatible with AGP 4X (1.5V), 8X (0.8v) or Universal AGP 3.0 bus configuration (4X/8X). "
I don't see anything confusing anywhere, the Sapphire 9600xt is a 1.5V keyed, Universal AGP3.0 card. This means that it can run on either 1.5V or 0.8V. Don't forget, AGP speeds are backwards compatible, unless you've got a board that only runs 1.5V AGP 2.0 spec and an 8X AGP 3.0 card that runs "only" 0.8v signal.
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PreservedSwine -
"Any AGP 3.0 card will work in any AGP 2.0 compliant mobo"firelance -
"While AGP 3.0 spec uses existing AGP 2.0 and AGP Pro 1.5v connectors, this does not mean you can use an AGP 3.0 card on a AGP 2.0 motherboard, you cannot..."Read stuff like this everywhere and maybe you'll understand why I cant accept those specs for what they appear to be
I know not every 3.0 card works in any 2.0 slot. Some or all of them tolerate the 1.5v but not all of them run on it. But I guess that "4x(1.5v)" means it will work... Tho I spent a lot of time in another forum with a guy who thinks the card wont work
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"compatible with AGP 8X (0.8V)/4X (1.5V) slot"
That means 8x OR 4x slot doesnt it? or is that an 8x/4x slot...
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The Radeon 9600XT will work in a 4X slot. Period.
You wanna know something? I got a Radeon 9800 Pro to work in the 2X slot of a 133MHz Pentium MMX. There's absolutely NO RISK of putting the 9600XT in your 4X slot.
You wanna know something else? They never actually manufactured any cards that ran on 0.8V; so while 8X slots are technically able to operate at 0.8V, no cards actually run at that voltage. AGP 4X cards and AGP 8X cards both run on 1.5V. 8X cards just have increased bandwidth; electricals stay the same.
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I like knowing stuff. Thanks. I've read that there are 8x cards that dont run in 1.5v slots. But it doesnt matter. I'm convinced.
This site looks pretty helpful
http://www.playtool.com/pages/agpcompat/agp.html
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ATI brand video cards are always wired to support the full range of what the ATI chipset on the card will support - for the 9600 series that's 4X and 8X. For the 9200 series that's 2X, 4X and 8X. Some clone cards that use ATI chips do not wire up the lesser speeds. You can usually find out for sure by looking up the specs on the clone makers site. The contacts and slots on the bottom of the ATI brand cards are a "universal" configuration , and they will work in almost all mboards with standard AGP slots of several standard types - that also applies to the clones with ATI chips, at least it does for Sapphire, Powercolor, ECS, Gigabyte. HIS have poor info about their cards on their web site - I would stay away from them.
Most of the ATI brand 9600 models have built in hardware support for DVD playback (except 9600...SE) which makes the DVD plyback smoother - some of the clones may not."what's the difference between an all in wonder 9600xt and a radeon 9600xt?
They use the same main chipset, but the All in Wonder has a built in TV tuner, video in/video out support, included video editing and recording/capture software, etc., etc.
Nobody but ATI makes an All in Wonder.You can compare all the 9600's directly on the ATI site, listed side by side.
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"Tho I spent a lot of time in another forum with a guy who thinks the card wont work"
If he tells you it's raining, don't hesitate to look out the window......LOL
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