After reinstall, no cd-rom

Compaq / 5070
March 17, 2009 at 12:08:36
Specs: Windows 98SE
Well basically this is whats happening to me, ill format, then install windows with the windows 98 boot cd disk. and everything works gravy until its all done, and restarts for the final time, when windows loads for the first time,it asks to put the windows disk in, but its already in, and its not even recononizing the drive,so i skip a bunch of files, that I need that I cant get now, and it starts configuring devices and drivers and such, and alot it cant find, because they are on the cd, and well, i cant even choose cdrom as a option to get the drivers, because the drive isnt there!, any how, now what happends when its all done, is the whole thing is botched(those files i skipped earlier are apparently vital and a bunch of stuff doesnt work), and i cant even attempt to fix it, because the cd rom doesnt work. SO FINALLY what my question is, how do i get windows to acknowledge the drive, so when it asks for the disk right after the final install restart I can have access to the cd rom, so i dont have to skip a bunch of vital files, plus have a bunch of devices with no drivers, plus no way to get them. BASICALLY is there a way to get windows to acknowledge your cd rom drive, BEFORE installing windows, to make this a smooth process? Thank you so much for all of your help. Sorry for the extra long question, i just wanted to be clear. :)

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March 17, 2009 at 12:50:58
MIght be easiest to run the installation from the hard drive.

First you need to copy the files to the hard drive. Boot up with either the 98 cd or bootdisk and format the drive again to get rid of the previous installation attempts. Then at the dos prompt type

md_c:\win98 and enter.

Then type

copy_X:\win98\*.*_c:\win98 and enter

where X is your cdrom drive letter--Probably D. The underlines in the commands indicate a space so when you type in those commands use a space instead of an underline.

That will copy the files you need from the 98 cd into a directory named WIN98 on the hard drive. When it's done you can take the cd out and type
c:\win98\setup and enter. That should start the installation. The files it needs are on the hard drive so it won't matter if it can't find the cdrom. Unless you have some kind of weird cdrom setup, it should show up once windows had completely set up.

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March 17, 2009 at 13:59:18
You know what i did that and it worked terrificly, only problem is, windows still doesnt reconize the cd-rom, there isnt even a drive assigned to it, nor can i assign one, after alot of researched im guessing my solution has something to do with add the oakcdrom.sys and himem.sys and something else, to my windows device file or something, but i really need detailed instruction on how to do this, if anyone can help please , thankyou

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March 17, 2009 at 16:36:36
Your description is rather UNCLEAR in the first post, but I think I have figured out what your problem is.

The Win 98 CD and the Win 98SE CD have bugs in Setup. There are a small number of mboard chipsets it has the drivers for, but Setup assigns a WRONG I/O address to the IDE controller, then Setup can't see the CD drive after that. That happens when you reach the stage in Setup where it reboots and starts up Windows for the first time.

In my case, I found out all about this the hard way when I tried to install Win 98 on a mboard with an Intel 430FX chipset, but apparently there are some other main chipsets Win 98 and 98SE Setup does this for as well.

RIGHT click on My Computer - Properties - Device Manager.
If you have the same problem I had, you will find a yellow ? beside the Hard Drive Controller, no dual fifo listings under that heading, and no CDRom listing.

If that's the same or very similar to what you see....

This is what I did......

I ran Setup with all my cards removed except for the video card (mine was in a slot - yours may be onboard video).
Unplug everything that's not necessary to run Setup - printers, USB connected devices, etc.

When you get to the stage in Setup where it starts up Windows for the first time, whenever it asks for a file on the Windows CD, choose to Skip loading the file, every time.

When Setup has finished, go to Device Manager.
RIGHT click on My Computer - Properties - Device Manager.

Hard Drive Controllers

I changed the
last I/O setting for the Hard Drive Controller in Device Manager, in my case to

This is what post on the web said about this subject.

Wherever you see Intel 82371FB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller or similar in the following, use the name of your own IDE controller.

After Windows setup (tested with Windows 98SE), there will be exclamation mark at the Intel 82371FB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller in Device Manager and the Primary and Secondary IDE controllers will be missing.
To fix this, select Intel 82371FB PCI Bus Master IDE Controller and click Properties. Then go to the Resources tab, uncheck Use automatic settings box and scroll down the box to see the last Input/Output Range (will be F000-F00F). Click it and then click Change Setting button. You will see 0000-000F in the Value box. Use down arrow to scroll to a free range (e.g. F100-F10F) and click OK. Then click OK
to close the property window. Windows will prompt you if you want to continue - click Yes. Windows will find new hardware: Primary and Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo). Close the Device Manager and reboot. The IDE controller is now installed properly and you can enable DMA for your IDE

Shut down the computer and install any cards you want to use in the slots.
Start up computer.
Your CD drive will be found by Windows and will now work again.
If Windows hasn't already done so, it will install the files you could not install in the last part of Setup.
It will also find the cards you have installed in the slots, install software from the Windows CD in some cases, and in some cases it will ask you for the drivers for the cards.

If your hard drives are capable of DMA mode (most are) go to Device Manager after Windows has fully loaded and turn on DMA mode in your hard drive and cd drive Settings in their Properties.

In my case I used Fxxx-FFFF.
In his case he used F000-F00F.

One of those may work for you, or any of several different ones may work for you. Whatever I/O address results in Windows finding new hardware: Primary and Secondary IDE controller (dual fifo) will work.

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March 17, 2009 at 16:54:25
I believe that's just a socket 7 with a K6-2 cpu so it's nothing fancy that 98 can't set up. But even then it wouldn't hurt to install the chipset drivers (probably Intel). If everything looks OK in device manager then right click on 'my computer' and choose 'performance' and check to see if the cdrom is in msdos compatibility mode.

If so, as already mentioned, it may be conflicting with some other hardware. If it's on it's own on the secondary IDE port then see what happens if you slave it to the HD on the primary. If it's already on the same cable as the HD then try connecting it by itself on the secondary.

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March 17, 2009 at 16:58:23
Oh, having a config.sys that loads himem.sys and oakcdrom.sys usually doesn't affect that but it wouldn't hurt to temporarily disable config.sys in msconfig and see if that makes any difference.

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March 17, 2009 at 22:58:27

rocknrollmullet has exactly the same situation I had.

It took me MANY hours to figure what was wrong by trial and error. Since then I have come across mentions of this problem many times. Maybe you're never encountered it - I certainly hadn't before that, and I haven't since except with the 430FX chipset - but other people have.

If rocknrollmullet has this situation.........

"RIGHT click on My Computer - Properties - Device Manager.
If you have the same problem I had, you will find a yellow ? beside the Hard Drive Controller, no dual fifo listings under that heading,
and no CDRom listing."

then he must do what I said in response 3.

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