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Name: Tech_Wiz02
Date: June 6, 2003 at 13:02:59 Pacific
OS: Windows 98SE
CPU/Ram: 400MHZ / 96MB
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Hi.
I have a computer that I am currently upgrading. Here is what it is and what is in it:

Packard Bell Legend 836CDT
PB600 Motherboard with onboard Video (Cirrus Logic Alpine GD5430)
96 MB Memory
400 Mhz AMD Processor (Powerleap Upgrade)
27 GB Maxtor Hard Drive
USB 2.0 PCI Card
Windows 98SE

I have run into a problem adding a new video card. I want to add a new Pine SIS 305 32MB PCI card. Whenever I insert it into the PCI slot and turn on the computer, there is no display and the computer begins to boot and stops. If I take the card out and connect the cable to the onboard video, it boots normally and there is a display. I have looked though the BIOS but did not see a way to disable the onboard video. I have read that when a new video card is installed, it will automatically disable itself. I have tested the card in another computer and the card works fine. Does anyone have any suggestions for my problem? Could it be that the video card is "too much" for the computer to handle?

Thanks in advance for any help.



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Response Number 1
Name: Raistlin333
Date: June 6, 2003 at 13:17:23 Pacific
Reply:

From what I know of that specific model, the PB600 video cannot be upgraded whatsoever, Many have tried but none suceeded. Sorry


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Response Number 2
Name: carl
Date: June 6, 2003 at 13:21:58 Pacific
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Don't know about Packard Bell, but there is 'usually' a Bios option to select the video card to use.
It's also 'usually' not necessary to disable the on board adapter when adding one. Windows is capable of using more than one adapter.
Can you install the new card but leave the monitor coonected to the onboard adapter? Boot up, install the driver for the new card and try again.


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Response Number 3
Name: Tech_Wiz02
Date: June 6, 2003 at 15:06:03 Pacific
Reply:

I wish it was that easy, carl. Even with that setup, the computer still shows no display.

Thanks for the help.


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Response Number 4
Name: beama
Date: June 6, 2003 at 15:08:48 Pacific
Reply:

i dont think you have to worry about connecting to the old video card bootup and install new drivers for the new one because if i remember correctly windows just uses the default video driver for any card it does not reconise untill you provide the correct driver BTW the default windows video driver is not pretty it offers very little in the way screen resolutions and colour depth


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Response Number 5
Name: beama
Date: June 6, 2003 at 15:12:39 Pacific
Reply:

sorry we posted at the same time i would in that case try disable the onboard video by whatever means M/B jumpers or bois then install your new card, I struck the same problem on a hp machine and had to disable on the M/B using jumpers provided


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Response Number 6
Name: johnoh
Date: June 6, 2003 at 15:35:11 Pacific
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The machine is using the on board agp as the default adapter. See if there is a way in bios to tell it to use the pci slot as the default adapter. This does not require disabling the agp, just telling the bios to look for pci vid cards first.

If that does not work and as you say there is no way to disable the on board agp, then you are hosed, but here is a workaround.

Plug in two monitors - one into the on board agp and the other into the new pci card. Windows will boot on the default monitor. Go into control panel > display > settings and enable monitor #2. Then drag the desktop icons and the taskbar over to monitor number 2. Reboot and windows should come up on the pci card display and you can unplug that other monitor. The reason this is so-so fix is because your bios will still tell dos and the bios setup program to use the agp-attached monitor first and you won't have one eplugged in. I've seen a lot of crappy bioses but never one that did not allow telling it whether to look for agp or pci video as the default.


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Response Number 7
Name: johnoh
Date: June 6, 2003 at 15:40:02 Pacific
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I just noticed that you already tried booting using a monitor in the agp and it sounds like you get a blank screen. Only thing I can think of is to try the other pci slots.


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Response Number 8
Name: wiggler14
Date: June 6, 2003 at 20:53:20 Pacific
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possibly an IRQ issue. How many other PCI cards (other than the usb 2.0)are in the system? Maybe pull them all except new vid card and try that.


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Response Number 9
Name: Nick R (by Nick Ritchie)
Date: June 7, 2003 at 07:17:48 Pacific
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My P3 750MHZ came with i810 intergrated graphics .Like you my BIOS had no option to disable the onboard video .I disabled it in devic manager under display adapters & system devices .Then I rebooted my system and it automatically installed the standard VGA software .This should allow you to use the monitor plug to the video card B/4 you install the drivers ,etc ! Dont try remove in device manager ,because it will detect the onboard video and prompt you to reinstall it evertytime you bootup ! In the BIOS ,make sure the preferred video adapter is set to PCI Frist !
Good Luck,Nick


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