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Name: Wibbie2
Date: June 15, 2006 at 02:15:21 Pacific
Subject: A wierd Video card problem
OS: Windows XP Home
CPU/Ram: Intel Celeron d 325, 1 gb
Model/Manufacturer: custom, biostar p4m80-m4
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ok, get this, i just got a new computer, built it from scratch. Well the case i put all the parts in was fine, but i bought a new case online. Very cheap case, i took out all my parts to find out that the mobo dont fit. When i go to put all my parts back into the original case, the video card acts up. It will go to the loading windows and then goes blank for a few seconds. after that the system restarts. I know its not the video card cause i checked it on another pc. Note: before i did this it all worked fine. My video card is an Asylum Geforce FX 5200 128mb


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Response Number 1
Name: street1
Date: June 15, 2006 at 02:57:48 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Video card not seated properly.

Need to uninstall video drivers
and reinstall them.

Motherboard is now shorting out
Check the stand-offs.

Also referring to the cheap
case......

My momma always said, "Life was like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're gonna get.


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Response Number 2
Name: Tubesandwires
Date: June 15, 2006 at 06:08:36 Pacific
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Make sure you unplug the computer or otherwise remove power to it when you do anything inside the case - ATX mboards are always powered some places, including the video slot, even when Windows is in Shut Down or Suspend or Hibernate modes. If you did not do that when you inserted the video card, you may have damaged it, or damaged the video slot circuits. Try removing the video card, putting it back in, making sure it is well seated and evenly down in the slot. You should not have to re-install the video drivers - that won't cause the problems you are having in any case. If you were fiddling with bios Setup settings at all, or re-set them to defaults, whether it is an AGP or PCI card, make sure the proper type is initialized first in the bios Setup.
Also try re-seating your ram, make sure your cpu is well seated.


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Response Number 3
Name: Badboy
Date: June 15, 2006 at 06:46:20 Pacific
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"When i go to put all my parts back into the original case, the video card acts up."

Maybe you didn't put "all the parts" back in the configuration that they were in when it was working.


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Response Number 4
Name: ham30
Date: June 15, 2006 at 11:09:33 Pacific
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WinXP will act like that if several parts are changed. Try a 'Repair' install.

Do yourself a favor BACKUP!
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Response Number 5
Name: cliffpage
Date: June 15, 2006 at 11:13:17 Pacific
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i think i worked on a computer like this a while back and if i remember correctly, replacing the ram cured it.
if you have more than one ram stick in there, try it with only one, if still no good, try it with the other ram stick on its own


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Response Number 6
Name: Wibbie2
Date: June 15, 2006 at 15:19:14 Pacific
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what are the standoffs

whats a repair install


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Response Number 7
Name: Badboy
Date: June 15, 2006 at 18:01:54 Pacific
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Standoffs are posts or metal brackets that support the MOBO in the case.

Windows XP allows you to do a Repair Install that corrects errors/problems with an existing OS installation.

You put a computer together "from scratch" then you "took out all (your) parts to find out that the mobo dont fit" then you "put all (your) parts back into the original case" and things don't work. And you don't know what a standoff or repair install are.

I'm real sure that the problem is that you didn't put "all the parts" back in the configuration that they were in when it was working.


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Response Number 8
Name: Wibbie2
Date: June 15, 2006 at 20:17:24 Pacific
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o, i did, i have all the parts the same way as before, i only have two cards in the mobo, a modem and a video card. I remember which slot i put what card in. i knew what a repair install was but i havn't heard it been called by that name before. even so, its not the video card, could it be something with my bios??? Or could my motherboard be acting up, i just got the motherboard like a week ago> im just so confused. I was hoping it was the video card because im getting a new one, ATI 9800 pro. Do you think that if i got my new video card that it would work?


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Response Number 9
Name: Badboy
Date: June 15, 2006 at 21:41:02 Pacific
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"im just so confused"

Good luck.



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Response Number 10
Name: mR_Slug
Date: June 16, 2006 at 01:33:28 Pacific
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I'm not quite sure how your hardware is setup now. I had a system a while back where the video card wouldn't work in the case, but would out of it. After many hours, I realized that the video card was seated incorrectly. The combination of the really cheap case, motherboard and video card meant that the backplate on the video card was about a 1/16 of an inch too low, which stopped the AGP card from going al the way in. The only solution was to remove the backplate, file it and then reattach. This may be an area to check, if there are no grounding issues related to standoffs.


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