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Name: tomdelonge
Date: November 24, 2005 at 07:09:09 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
OS: Microsl*t Win XP Home SP8
CPU/Ram: AMD64 2600+/1GB 3200 Sams
Comment:

I am stuck with one question.

A customer reports he installed a 600mhz cpu in his old pc and bios reports 300mhz at startup.

Which troubleshooting steps should you take to identify the cause.

A. Check for incorrect jumper settings
B. Check for poorly seated cpu
C. Check for incompatible memory modules
D. Check for BIOS compatibility

The only answers I have a choice from are above, there is only 2 correct choices. I have been reading and reading but cannot come to a definitive answer. Please help me!

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Response Number 1
Name: jam
Date: November 24, 2005 at 07:13:15 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
Reply: (edit)

If you can't answer this one without help, I'd hate to see what you're doing with the hard ones!

I'll give you a hint...you can safely rule out choice B

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Response Number 2
Name: tomdelonge
Date: November 24, 2005 at 07:25:40 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
Reply: (edit)

Jam, I love you, but I already know that. A poorly seated cpu wouldnt even boot up. I have read my 900 page a+ book 7 times now. I have been on google so many times in the book search they have to find out more info. I personally think it is A and D. But in this section I got 7 out of 9 questions right.

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Response Number 3
Name: johnwaren
Date: November 24, 2005 at 07:31:51 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
Reply: (edit)

A. Check the incorrect jumper setting.
You're going to do this ofcourse..there's a posibility.


D. Check for BIOS compatibility

I think the Cpu is not supported by the Motherboard you need to update the bios to a newest version. Maybe the newest version can support the subject CPU.


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Response Number 4
Name: tomdelonge
Date: November 24, 2005 at 07:35:55 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
Reply: (edit)

Thanks john....I have installed many a cpu before and I thought I knew what the answer was but wasnt sure.

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Response Number 5
Name: tomdelonge
Date: November 24, 2005 at 07:43:28 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
Reply: (edit)

I have one more question then I will stop bugging you all.

Which of the following are important considerations when adding memory modules to a system board.

A. Access speed
B. CPU type
C. Level 1 cache
D. Parity

Ok I think it is A + D. It isnt to do with the L1 Cache as that is on the cpu. It isnt to do with cpu type because you go by motherboard limitations not cpu, when choosing memory.

Theres 2 answers :D

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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: November 24, 2005 at 08:10:25 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
Reply: (edit)

"I personally think it is A and D"

That should have been fairly obvious, especially since you ruled out choice B (even without my help...LOL). If you would've stopped to think about it, what happens to a system when incompatible memory modules are installed?

Looks like you've already got the answer to the other question too.

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Response Number 7
Name: tomdelonge
Date: November 24, 2005 at 08:13:02 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
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I dont know jam because I have never installed incompatible ones!

Are you saying it is C + D for the first one?

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Response Number 8
Name: XpUser
Date: November 24, 2005 at 08:15:15 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
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Are we doing the homework for you? Didn't you read the textbooks?

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Response Number 9
Name: jam
Date: November 24, 2005 at 08:15:21 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
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"incompatible" is the key word! It will not run at all with incompatible memory! GEEZ! & you wanna be a tech?

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Response Number 10
Name: XpUser
Date: November 24, 2005 at 08:21:25 Pacific
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GEEZ! & you wanna be a tech...with Best Buy's Geek Squads.

i_XpUser


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Response Number 11
Name: tomdelonge
Date: November 24, 2005 at 08:26:16 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
Reply: (edit)

XP user, I have read textbooks.

Jam, we all have to start somewhere. I am right at the beggining. I have so much more to do. I know quite alot about computers, out of 50 questions I got only 5 wrong. These are within those 5. It is just some things I dont know yet. I cannot possibly know something without reading or asking.


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Response Number 12
Name: 1stepbeyond
Date: November 24, 2005 at 12:56:17 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
Reply: (edit)

Hi
1st you have to logically pick out the answers (which has been done,) you have to ask 'why' is it a,d if its not clear, theres some class acts here on c.net who will make you work for the answer just dont expect the silver spoon. and watch out for the windup merchants else you will be removing fishhooks for days after.

remember the net is bigger than the A+ book eg: so more reading

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/ram/timing.htm

http://www.pcguide.com/ref/ram/errParity-c.html

last resort; ask at pc world for /hits and giggles just dont buy anything.

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Response Number 13
Name: tomdelonge
Date: November 24, 2005 at 15:46:43 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
Reply: (edit)

Thank you 1stepbeyond. I know what you mean about the windup merchants. I dont want a silver spoon and I want to work and feel like I have achieved something. I have 5 questions I struggled with out of 50. I spent hours reading my books, googling and reading the a+ books on the new google service thing. These are the only 2 left that I couldnt answer.

Also, I wouldnt be caught dead buying anything in the heavily overpriced pc world. My aunt made that mistake, she paid £999 for a compaq 2.2ghz celeron with onboard graphics and sound and a 15 inch tft. This was 9 months ago. Take a guess at how many times I have been to fix it................................its 9 times :D

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Response Number 14
Name: plainandsimple
Date: November 24, 2005 at 16:41:50 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
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OK so you answered 90% of the questions right, but the best way to learn is by actually building PC's from scatch. I am talking 386/486/586, and learnt far more than I could from taking an exam.


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Response Number 15
Name: jefro
Date: December 5, 2005 at 09:26:38 Pacific
Subject: A+ Help
Reply: (edit)

Well, there could be any number of reasons the system reports the wrong speed.
The system is rather old. It could use a jumper as stated above or it could still be bios issues. It could still be a bootlegged cpu. There have been many a phoney cpu passed on. The voltages on the motherboard might have drifted as well as clock circuits. Sometimes when you get in there you cut a cirtuit lan that goes to the cpu putting on the heatsink. I think the memory issue is the least of the ideas. Yes, a poorly installed cpu actually could cause the wrong cpu speed. See pinouts of cpu to see why but this also assumes which processor it might be. The question needs more info on a real world question.

One thing I am sure about is poking fun at people doesn't seem to solve anything.


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