478B P4 cpu comparison

P4vxasd / Sl5wh
January 17, 2009 at 15:10:32
Specs: Windows XP, 1.9ghz/512 sdram
i'd like to know which of the following cpu's is the better one, and why.

1.SL7NU (Intel Celeron D 325)
2.SL88F (Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz)

one is a celeron, one isn't. one had more L2 cache than the other. they both have the same mhz. Ihave them both, and an AsRock P4i45D+ mobo.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#1
January 17, 2009 at 15:35:25
The P4 is better but you don't have a great board to run it on. For best performance, a 533MHz FSB (133MHz freq) Intel CPU should be run with DDR333 RAM (166MHz) for a ratio of 4:5. Running the RAM faster than the CPU makes up for the inefficiency of the P4 architecture. However, the ASRock site states that when using RAM faster than DDR266, you're limited to just one stick:

"Supported by overclocking mode, DDR400/350/300 only support 1 DIMM"

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.a...


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#2
January 17, 2009 at 15:36:33
The P4; that chip is also a good overclocker.

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#3
January 17, 2009 at 15:40:58
ok thank you both very much. i don't really understand the diff b/t celeron and non-celeron.. and why a 2.53 celeron is not as fast as a 2.4 non-celeron. but i definitely believe the two of you.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#4
January 17, 2009 at 16:23:34
Mostly boils down to L2 cache size. The celeron has 256Kb and the 533Mhz Prescott has 1Mb; 4x as much.

Now that you've gotten used to the AMD double pump thing (100/200, 133/266...), notice that Intel quad pumps (100/400, 133/533, 200/800) the P4 class of processors you're into now.

Note: The quad pump thing has nothing to do with the P4 having double or quadruple the amount of L2 cache of the Celeron.

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#5
January 17, 2009 at 16:27:19
ok i got it.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#6
January 17, 2009 at 17:00:22
on that thought, since this board isn't too good, i'm using the weaker cpu on it, the celeron. can i get a hand with the optimal bios settings, i want a quiet system, not overclocked, it's a priest's pc :) and i'm not joking.

i went and enabled the spread spectrum, the cpu is on default 133, but there are those fsb/dram/agp clocks to set, i have 4 options, no 'auto' option

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#7
January 17, 2009 at 17:03:29
man if i can show you this picxture i took of the pc when i opened it :)) hd was lying on the bottom of the case, dust as thick as 1/2 inch in places.

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#8
January 17, 2009 at 17:12:26
"i went and enabled the spread spectrum"

Why would you do that?

Spread Spectrum is there because of FCC regulations & is usually enabled by default. The general recommendation is to disable it & keep it that way. Look here to find an explanation as to why:

http://www.adriansrojakpot.com/Spee...


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#9
January 18, 2009 at 02:00:38
i thought it made things quieter and more stable. ok i disabled it. thanks for keeping an eye on me man.

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#10
January 18, 2009 at 09:17:08
"i thought it made things quieter and more stable"

No, enabling it actually makes the system less stable, that's why it's recommended to ALWAYS keep it disabled.

You've been posting an awfully lot & always about different board/CPU combos...frankly, most of them suck. Where are you getting all these crappy boards?


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#11
January 18, 2009 at 11:44:40
well i'm hoping this one will stun you some:

since i kept that better cpu, the p4, for a better board, i went and got a board for it today. here it is:

-intel entry server s875wp1-e . it's huge, has an intel chipset, at least the southbridge, the north is covered by a BIG heatsink, as big as a socket a heatsink :) is this a better board than the AsRock P4i45D+ for the p4 SL88F (Intel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz) that skip said is a good overclocker ?

-ok besides the fact that the power connector on the mobo is longer than the normal ones, there's an additional one next to the cpu, which has 8 pins. what the hell :) i'm not touching it until u guys explain the deal. there's 6 sata connectors on this mobo, with another heatsink in betweeen them :) what is this thing ? it's got the 478 socket, it's why i picked it up, i saw the intel chipset and the rageXL onboard graphics, i figured it may be a good board. no swollen caps, etc.

About the provenience: source one is an internet cafe across the street from my house, the owner recently upgraded his systems, and a month or two ago started giving me all these components to restore/repair or just.. clean up (some worked ok). source two is my cousin who brings me 90% non-working systems to fix up from all his friends in college. source three is an old man, who 10 years ago was in tune with the times and as an IT technician was taking care of about 20% of the city's school computer labs. nowadays, retired, shop closed, he agreed to let me run my hobby by using old stuff around his dusty shop. he can't see so well anymore, but i swear he knows how to do a bios hotswap or upgrade like it's nothing.

I always say it's best to doublecheck.


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#12
January 18, 2009 at 11:49:36
ok this is what i've found.

http://www.intel.com/support/mother...

is there a way to test this mobo out before i go out and buy a strange psu like the one required here ?

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#13
January 18, 2009 at 12:46:32
and as long as we're on the bonk mobos, please give me a straight answer on this:

i have the two cpus amdk6-2 350mhz and amd k6-2+ 500mhz. obviously the latter is the stronger.

i have two mobos: the lucky tech P5mvp3 with the via chipset and agp card. I also have an ATC-5030, which seems to be an A-Trend mobo. it has an intel chipset and no agp slot (but I do have PCI video cards).

which is the better mobo, hence which deserves the k6-2+ 500mhz cpu ?

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#14
January 18, 2009 at 13:23:39
Use the P5MVP3 board.

The Intel-based board will limit the CPU bus to 66MHz (or 75-83MHz, overclocked). Super Socket 7 (100MHz bus) is an AMD thing; Intel never supported it. The Intel-based board probably won't allow the 2.0v that your mobile K6-2 requires.

AGP is also a far better video bus than PCI.

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#15
January 18, 2009 at 14:00:50
okay, thank you jack

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#16
January 19, 2009 at 05:54:55
it worked out fine, thanks again

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#17
January 19, 2009 at 22:34:01
now i got a celeron 2.93, so i'm trying to do math. 533/4=133 so what should i set the ram to then, in order to get 4:5 ratio jam suggested for intels ? ddr333 ? help guys

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