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Name: gunfun
Date: May 16, 2007 at 12:36:46 Pacific
Subject: 32 bit or 64 bit??
OS: xp
CPU/Ram: p4
Model/Manufacturer: acer
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im thinking to buy dual core processor should i buy 32 bit or 64 bit???
also tell me im buying this IntelĀ® mother Board D975XBX2motherboard this board also comes with 32 and 64 bit versions???

im building vista gaming pc so does it really matter which version of hardware i have im confussed?
games also made for 32 bit and 64 bit hardware???


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Response Number 1
Name: SeveredServivor
Date: May 16, 2007 at 13:27:15 Pacific
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I say get the most powerful cpu you can afford, as you will need it for a gaming pc. You don't want to flake out and get a cheap one or you will regret it. Your going to need the most processing power you can get to drive the new power hungry video cards i wouln't get less than a duo E6700. As far as video cards go i wouldn't get anything less than a 8800gts 640mb


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Response Number 2
Name: jam
Date: May 16, 2007 at 14:27:07 Pacific
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Don't listen to the above unless you're independently wealthy...& maybe you are since you spent well over $200 for that motherboard. He's got you spending another $700 for the CPU & video card, plus you'll need to spend $100+ for a decent quality PSU to protect your investment. And don't forget another $100+ for 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR2-800 with decent timings.

"im building vista gaming pc"

At this time, XP is better for gaming:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/01...


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Response Number 3
Name: Cobra_R
Date: May 16, 2007 at 16:02:46 Pacific
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Don't tell hero that jam. lol.

"Windows Me II aka Windows Vista."


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Response Number 4
Name: SeveredServivor
Date: May 16, 2007 at 23:17:09 Pacific
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Well the fact is that if you do have some cash and want a decent gaming rig to play future games you will need the above hardware trust me. With newer games like Crysis and other dx10 games they will be making your system crawl at a slow pace if u don't get good hardware, in fact I would advise you get even more powerful stuff if you can afford it, and yes you will want to save some for a beastly psu for it is the most important piece to the puzzle. I recommend getting a 1000W single rail by pc power and cooling if you can afford it, or silverstone has a nice one too. A strong single rail much better way to go than multiple weak rails. if not so much cash then go for like a Silverstone DA750 it has a nice 12v with 60A and has been a wonderful psu to me. you will need the power especially if you don't want to buy another psu on your next upgrade of video cards cpu's etc in the future.


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Response Number 5
Name: gunfun
Date: May 17, 2007 at 02:37:46 Pacific
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but what about 32 bit and 64 bit thing???
ok the processor im getting is 64 bit which will support both 32 bit and 64 bit os but what about motherboard the motherboard i want to buy also comes in too version 32 and 64 bit???
i will just get a dual core and later i will buy quad core coz this motherboard supports both processors


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Response Number 6
Name: gunfun
Date: May 17, 2007 at 02:39:04 Pacific
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im making vista gaming pc for next generation games thet link u posted shows that xp is better then vista for current games not for up coming games


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Response Number 7
Name: Cobra_R
Date: May 17, 2007 at 04:13:35 Pacific
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XP is going to be the best for gaming for a while.

For starters XP uses less resoruces then Vista.

Second of all Vista still has a decent amount of bugs to get worked out first, from its OS to 3rd party software.

Lastly Vista itself. Games just semm to run faster on avg in XP and I don't think that will ever change due to the nature of Vista. It didn't change from Beta to Final so that may give you a clue that's it's more of the nature of Vista itself.

Vista does come with DirectX 10 though which is still going to be questionable if XP will get it when SP3 comes out in 2008.

Turthfully i'd wait until Vista SP1 comes out which should be soon and see if it fixes the last 2 problems I mentioned above.


"Windows Me II aka Windows Vista."


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Response Number 8
Name: gunfun
Date: May 17, 2007 at 05:06:20 Pacific
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still u r saying nothing about 32bit and 64 bit vistas and what about 32 and 64 bit motherboards?
the board which i mention above comes with 32 and 64 bit versions or just 64 bit version???


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Response Number 9
Name: Sabertooth
Date: May 17, 2007 at 09:37:26 Pacific
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"still u r saying nothing about 32bit and 64 bit"

Dude,

The underlying message here is not that arcane - STICK WITH VISTA 32BIT for now.

FYI, If you purchase a full version of Vista - the retail copy, you don't even get to choose which one you prefer which is a bonus since you get both versions on the same DVD & your 32bit key is used to install the 32bit or 64bit version depending on your hardware.

So if you want to "test drive" x64 for a couple of months to have a feel of it before making a totally commitment - you have the luxury of doing that.

Below is a little snippet from a recent x86 vs x64 article.

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For one, Vista x64 presents some device driver challenges. Older 32-bit drivers won't work on this OS, so your hardware will either need to be supported by Vista's built-in set of drivers or the device manufacturer will have to offer 64-bit Vista drivers.

Most of the core system components we've recommended already have 64-bit Vista drivers, but if you're carrying over peripherals like printers and scanners, you'll want to look into drivers for them. Also, Vista x64 requires all drivers to be signed. Since bad drivers are frequently the culprit in an unstable system, this requirement makes sense in environments where stability is crucial.

It's not so great, though, if you're the type to run user-customized graphics drivers or the like.

Also, the x64 edition of Vista breaks compatibility with older applications in a couple of ways. Vista x64 can't run 16-bit software, which will matter to those folks who are attached to a really old application for some reason. Also, Thurrott points out that 64-bit versions of Vista lack automatic registry and file redirection, a key element of Vista's backward-compatibility provisions.

As a result, more recent 32-bit and even 64-bit applications written for Windows XP may not run properly under Vista x64.

We're not quite sure where PC enthusiasts will go on this issue. There may be something of a split between the gaming-oriented enthusiasts who pick the 32-bit version of Vista for minimum hassle and the computer propellerheads who go the x64 route for maximum performance and security.

As for us, we're tentatively recommending the x64 version of Vista here, since our system guide is oriented toward those building themselves brand-new PCs. By and large, the newer hardware recommended here ought to have 64-bit drivers ready, and the x64 version's improvements in memory support, security and the like are probably worth the hassle, so long as you can successfully navigate the hardware and app-level incompatibilities.

With a retail version of Vista, nothing should stop you from giving Vista x64 a go and reformatting and installing the 32-bit version if you run into problems.

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http://techreport.com/etc/2007q1/ma...

http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=440

"and what about 32 and 64 bit motherboards?"

Virtually all new boards on retail shelves today are 64bit or x64 capable. 32bit or x86 only board are not longer being pushed by almost all hardware vendors.

Hwever, if hearing it from us is the only thing that would put your mind at rest - your Bad Axe 2 board from Intel is x64 capable. Though if you ask me personally about which board to buy for a new 775 based system - I don't think the Bad Axe 2 would be my final choice & this is not because the board is horrible or anything, it's just that considering all other options.....price, features, performance, overclockability....there are better 775 boards out there.



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Response Number 10
Name: Cobra_R
Date: May 17, 2007 at 15:15:29 Pacific
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Dude it doesnt' matter which vista 32bit or 64bit you get they both have the same amount of problems that i mentioned in terms of bugs and compatiblity if not more so with vista 64bit in terms of supporting native 64bit software.

if you must go to vista, then get vista 32bit like saber said.

You'd be better off sticking with xp for the next year until vista gets all the bugs worked out on it if it ever does for that matter.

"Windows Me II aka Windows Vista."


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Response Number 11
Name: gunfun
Date: May 18, 2007 at 02:32:01 Pacific
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but xp dont supports dx10 games and what about my 8 series card this card will be best on vista not on xp


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Response Number 12
Name: Sabertooth
Date: May 18, 2007 at 12:40:42 Pacific
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Like I said if you purchase a retail copy of Vista - you get both x86 & x64 verion of the OS. And if you want to - you can "test drive" x64 for a couple of months to have a feel of it before making a totally commitment to it - or you can simply switch to the 32bit version.


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Response Number 13
Name: Cobra_R
Date: May 18, 2007 at 14:02:11 Pacific
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So it doesn't come with directX 10. Big freaking deal.

"Windows Me II aka Windows Vista."


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Response Number 14
Name: SeveredServivor
Date: May 19, 2007 at 11:57:43 Pacific
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well I,m using vista 64 and a 8800gts 640mb right now only im using a Amd cpu and mobo I don't know about what bugs Intel may have but I'm not having any problems with any games , and haven't had and lockup or crashes with anything so far,works about as good as xp for me or better.


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