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I have an older packard bell 233 mhz, 128mb, running W2K Svr as a DHCP server. I changed the CMOS battery recently, after that the HDD was not being recognized/found. I messed with IDE cables, jumpers etc., but found that it would only boot up if i had the primary IDE channel with the HDD on it, and nothing plugged into the 2nd IDE channel. Once I add a cable to the 2nd IDE channel for the cd-rom, the HDD on primary channel is not being found, and i get the message 'insert bootable media in appropriate drive', what is wrong with this 2nd IDE channel.
I am presently running it withoug a cd-rom, but will try cd-rom as a slave on primary channel.
i went into bios and can not find anything wrong!!
Are both channels enabled in the BIOS and are all four drive selections iether set to auto or manually configured. Some boards of that era had an option to force detection of IDE devices. Look for it. May be on the same screen as the drives or on another one.
Some older boards will not recognise an optical drive as the primary device. Cable select may or may not be an option.
I suggest you restore ALL jumpers and cables to original settings, assumming you can recall them, and look in the BIOS screens for the reason.
What is the size of the HDrive?
It sounds like you have the harddrive jumpered as Master with slave. Change out the cables if you have spares.
What prompted you to change the battery anyway?
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There is no reason for you to be messing with cables, jumpers or ANY hardware. Changing the battery reset the BIOS settings to defaults, you have to correct them...simple as that.
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i changed the battery because I kept getting 'CMOS time and date not set' on boot up, press F1 to set, ESC to cancel etc...
i was getting sick of that so i changed the battery, so i wouldn't have to press ESC everytime i turned on this computer.I have autodetect on for each ide channel.
the hard drive is only about 3G, i used a small one because this is just a DHCP server.
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Having drive detection set to AUTO is not the same as enabling the IDE channels. If the IDE channel isn't enabled the bios isn't going to see the drive connected to it.
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but why when I have the primary ide channel with the HDD functioning properly and then add the cd-rom to the secondary ide channel the system on boot up then saya 'insert bootable media in appropriate drive'?
i have the secondary set to autoconfigure, do i also have a place in the bios settings to enable this channel?
presently i have the secondary ide not being used, just the primary ide with the HDD on it!!
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If you are speaking of the setttings on the page wher you set the drive selections to auto or somthing else, that is NOT the IDE controller selector. That will be located in a different screen back one, two or possibly three screens. Try advance BIOS features. Could be on a page with a different name, depending on what BIOS and version is running on the MBoard.
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It would seem the bios isn't seeing the HD when the cdrom is added or isn't seeing it as a bootable device. The posting screen should indicate if it's seeing the HD. When it does show, is it seen as 'primary master'?
Might be a HD jumper or cabling problem but yeah, first verify the controllers are properly enabled. Also, did you switch any of the power connectors when adding the cdrom? Sometimes a contact can get flared out and not make a good connection.
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when i have just the HDD installed the primary IDE channel lists the manufacturer of the HDD and I am able to press enter and see info such as cylinders, sectors etc.
but when i add the cd-rom to the secondary ide channel it does not detect the HDD, it takes a while and gives me the 'insert bootable media in appropriate drive', if i enter the bios before this message the primary ide does not describe the HDD manufacturer and all its properties, it now just says primary ide 'installed', when i press enter it says 0 cylinders - 0 sectors etc.
even when i put the cd-rom as a slave to the primary channel this problem still continues.
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Can you swap in a different cdrom to see if that's the problem? Was the cdrom working OK before you opened the case to install the new battery?
When the cdrom was on the secondary was its jumper on 'master' and when on the primary was it jumpered to 'slave'?
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What you describe in #8 is the ditails for a harddrive. As I stated above the harddrive CONTROLLERS are listed on a different screen.
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both ide are set to enable!!
everything workded fine prior to inserting new battery.
all jumpers were set accordingly for master/slave with the cd-rom.
when i install the cd-rom as master on 2nd ide channel, the primary ide does not list the manufacturer of the HDD like it does when the 2nd ide channel is not being used, instead of saying 'samsung hard drive' it just says 'installed' and when i click it to see its properties, all cylinders,sectors, heads are set to 0.
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From response #1 " Some older boards will not recognise an optical drive as the primary device'. I think this would include your rig.
First try connecting the harddrive cable to the secondary channel with nothing on the primary channel. See if you can boot to Windows. This will establish the secondary channel is OK. If OK then try jumpering the CD as slave on the secondary channel.
Cables are fragile, you should try replacement cables if available. Also, some OEM vendors shipped units with propietory cables with some of the wires not terminated. Make sure you don't have a cable like that.
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