well, i have been gaming on 9800pro for quite sometime, but recently after i got my 19' viesonic monitor, i have been having hard time running hl2 and css on 1280x1024 resolution, so i sold my card... I am looking to order one of these two cards from newegg, 6800gt http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814108137 x800pro http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102425 i have dealed with ati and nvidia cards for quite some time, i think ati has less problems, both of the xcards have great features, looks like that x800 is a bit faster, what about image quality? which 1? and for future releases such as bf2 and cod2, whcich would be better for them, thx peace

Ok, whell one thing is that if you can, upgrade to pci-e. I will give you better speed for gaming. Also i heard that SLI is supposingly awsome even when using only one monitor, but it costs more then its worth it. Ok personally id go with the sapphire, it has open gl 2.0 and 12 pixel pipeline the nvidia has a 1ghz memory clock witch is 100mhz faster then the radeon, and a 16 pixel pipeline. The nvidia would be better for gaming to my opinion, but i have always liked the radeons Mod it till it bleeds

You don't provide any other of your system specs, but I would have stuck with the 9800 Pro a while longer, especially if you're running AGP. http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/vga_charts-08.html http://www20.graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041222/vga_charts-09.html Asus A7N8X-X 1800+ @ 8 x 210MHz 768MB PC3200 Asus A9550 128MB/128-bit Gamer Edition WinME/WinXP Pro

I'm still yet to see any conclusive evidence that the PCI-E cards are faster. I know that PCI-E is theoretically faster as in max bandwidth etc but is it used? Gigabyte K8NSNXP-939 Athlon 64 3500+ @2450 Dual - Corsair TwinX CMX512-3200XL Gecube X800 XT Platinum Seagate 200 Gig Coolermaster Wavemaster Silver

There is not a game on the market yet that uses anywhere near the bandwidth provided by the PCI-e bus. Think about the last time you completely ran out of bandwidth using the AGP 8x spec... Most people never do. You'd have to be doing some pretty intensive stuff to take full advantage of PCI-e at the moment. Matt