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Name: Avun
Date: July 12, 2005 at 14:09:27 Pacific
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Okay... A year ago I knew nothing about pricing.. Now I do and I buy online.. And this.. is just a example of how much places OVER charge...

http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/product/prodBlock.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&expansionOID=-536895616&prodBlockOID=1611241272

If anyone reads this that is new to the computer world.. DO NOT BUY FROM STORES or you will be ripped off.. big.. time.



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Response Number 1
Name: SkipCox
Date: July 12, 2005 at 15:41:49 Pacific
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I can walk down the street and buy a 9250 for about 50 bucks from a local store.

Just because one or two stores might charge more than something is worth hardly warrants the "DO NOT BUY FROM STORES or you will be ripped off." statement.

Anyone who lives in a city large enough to support a store the size of OfficeMax will give you other alternatives.

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Response Number 2
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 12, 2005 at 16:37:45 Pacific
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What happens if the part you buy goes bad or it doesn't work with your system and you want to simply return it even from a place as good as newegg?

You're gonna at least pay for shipping, and often a restocking fee.

Many stores don't do that.

There's also the convenience of being able to pick it up that day if you need to. Overnight shipping from an online vendor would probably cost more.

Generally, yes, online stores cost less, but price isn't necessarily everything.

"Pat Buchanan, Bob Novak, and G. Gordon Liddy don't like Mark Felt. Mark Felt is truly a great man."


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Response Number 3
Name: Avun
Date: July 12, 2005 at 18:22:44 Pacific
Reply:

Okay.> I meant reather.. Brand name stores! Such as Walmart.. Office max.. "Best" buy and so on.


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Response Number 4
Name: pheonix991
Date: July 12, 2005 at 18:32:29 Pacific
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walmart you have a point. but i grabbed up an 80gig wd hdd for 20 bux at best buy. you can't say they overprice. you can get great deals some times. if you get a deal like that it is worth to buy from a store and not a website.

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Response Number 5
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 12, 2005 at 18:47:34 Pacific
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I agree. I got a 160 gig WD hard drive from CompUSA for $30 after rebates. Bought an enclosure for $30, and viola, 160 gig external hard drive for $60! Newegg as good as they are can't hold a candle to that deal. :-)

"Pat Buchanan, Bob Novak, and G. Gordon Liddy don't like Mark Felt. Mark Felt is truly a great man."


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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: July 12, 2005 at 19:07:47 Pacific
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Bottomline is you gotta know your stuff. If someone is stupid enough to pay $129 for a Radeon 9250, that's on them...you can't blame the store for the consumer's ignorance

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Response Number 7
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 12, 2005 at 19:11:06 Pacific
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Gotta disagree to a point there. I don't know squat about cars, and I still don't think it's right my dealer charged me $800 on a catalytic converter years ago. Consumers can't know everything, and the world would be a lot better place if we all didn't try to rip one another off. Yeah, you should do your homework, but at the same time, people should at least try not to royally screw others over, too...

"Pat Buchanan, Bob Novak, and G. Gordon Liddy don't like Mark Felt. Mark Felt is truly a great man."


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: July 12, 2005 at 20:06:18 Pacific
Reply:

OK, Mr. Catalytic Converter...LMAO!!!!

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Response Number 9
Name: Sabertooth
Date: July 12, 2005 at 20:31:34 Pacific
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I bet if cough...cough Al Gore didn't invent the internet, we'd all still be buying all our computer stuff the old fashioned way (at a brick & mortar store), moreover there are some components I'd prefer not to buy online, things like computer cases, PSU, monitor, even speakers (mostly bulky stuff) and you probably know the reason.

Secondly there are millions of folks out there that have no access to the internet, some are too remote, others can't afford it and the rest don't have the service they prefer in their locality, so retail store is it for them and guess what, they don't have to pay between $10.00 and $40.00 every month, so it kinda evens out somehow.

Finally the internet may be very good for computer savvy folks, a lot of businesses can not rely on that medium alone to capture their target market or they'd simply fold up.

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Response Number 10
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 12, 2005 at 21:43:00 Pacific
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"OK, Mr. Catalytic Converter...LMAO!!!!"

I know now! >:(

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Response Number 11
Name: springy101
Date: July 12, 2005 at 22:50:11 Pacific
Reply:

doesnt frys electronics always have some good deals as well?


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Response Number 12
Name: josh (by jpag3074)
Date: July 13, 2005 at 06:54:19 Pacific
Reply:

THANK GOD FOR AL GORE
LMAO

yup!


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Response Number 13
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 13, 2005 at 07:03:39 Pacific
Reply:

I hate Al Gore. Had he simply won his home state in 2000, Bush would have never been elected twice. >:( Not that I'm anti-Republican, I'm just anti-idiot.

"Republicans in Congress are moving to ratify a constitutional amendment to ban flag burning, thus ending the Iraq insurgency."


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Response Number 14
Name: jam
Date: July 13, 2005 at 07:29:36 Pacific
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I'm a registered Republic, but I try to vote for the better candidate, regardless of party affiliation. Do you really think we'd be better off if Al Gore was our Prez? The fact that he DIDN'T win his home state says a LOT!

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Response Number 15
Name: jam
Date: July 13, 2005 at 07:30:35 Pacific
Reply:

ooops...Republican

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Response Number 16
Name: Dumb Geek (by bitboy)
Date: July 13, 2005 at 07:50:39 Pacific
Reply:

if you buy from a local small store, they charge more. usually bigger store like bestbuy, microcenter charge less than those small store.

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Response Number 17
Name: jam
Date: July 13, 2005 at 08:26:23 Pacific
Reply:

But his example IS OfficeMax!

$129.99 for a Diamond Stealth ATI Radeon 9250 PCI 256MB.

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Response Number 18
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 13, 2005 at 09:11:26 Pacific
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"I try to vote for the better candidate, regardless of party affiliation."

Me, too. I'm not registered for either party. I've voted for both parties regularly. In 2000, I was so disgusted with both Gore and Bush I voted for Nader out of pure protest.

"Do you really think we'd be better off if Al Gore was our Prez? The fact that he DIDN'T win his home state says a LOT!"

At the time in 2000, I thought both would be bad, Gore a little better. Now, I would have to say Gore would have been a lot better. I have to think hard to find an administration as bad as this one in the last 100 years. Hoover comes to mind rather easily, but who past that has done this horrible of a job?

Non-partisan common sense analysis of what this administration has been able to accomplish:

1. We've had internationally at least two major terrorist attacks since 9/11 attributed to al Quaida - Spain and Britain. Both were in retaliation for the war in Iraq. Therefore, at the very least, we have not decreased the threat of terrorist acts against us and our allies since 9/11, despite driving up a record deficit by conducting a war in Iraq, and enlarging federal agencies such as the CIA, FBI, DHS, the military, etc. (while decreasing taxes for the rich, because THAT'S important!!!); we might have actually increased the chances of more terrorist acts.

2. In a time of war, with a solid backing from the American people unified behind him, Bush has managed to redivide this country bitterly over issues such as abortion, homosexual marriage, and the like. This is a far cry from other war time presidents like Roosevelt, Bush Sr., etc. I know the left wing nuts played a part in this, but a good leader should be able to overcome this, not exacerbate it!

3. Increased anti-American sentiment around the world, ironically increasing the likelyhood of more people becoming terrorists wanting to do harm to the US.

4. Repeatedly has been dishonest concerning the current state of things in Iraq, pursuit of the terrorists, role of his administration in exposing a CIA operative for political payback, intelligence pre-invasion of Iraq, and the list goes on and on. I know all administrations lie, but holy crap!

We're not even talking about other nice gems like promising money to schools for No Child Left Behind only to not provide it, but forcing schools to abide by its regulations anyway.

Gore would have probably not invaded Iraq without UN approval. Maybe not for the right reasons, but the invasion of Iraq probably wouldn't have happened.

Gore probably wouldn't have intentionally divided the country over an issue like homosexual marriage in a time of war. That was a deliberate campaign strategy by Karl Rove. Irregardless of how you feel about that issue, now is NOT the time to settle it.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think Gore would have done a good job. It's just hard to imagine anyone doing any worse of a job.

Also, I put an equal amount of blame on the Democrats for fielding two HORRIBLE candidates in 2000 and 2004. No excuse for getting beaten by Bush twice. Their party suffers from the same problem - the extremists with the money are in control.

Anyway, my rant is done. Both parties suck. Please, for the love of all humanity, and I don't care which, at least one party nominate someone decent in 2008, that's all I'm asking.

"Republicans in Congress are moving to ratify a constitutional amendment to ban flag burning, thus ending the Iraq insurgency."


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Response Number 19
Name: Dumb Geek (by bitboy)
Date: July 13, 2005 at 17:11:25 Pacific
Reply:

lol this forum is like about political stuff.

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Response Number 20
Name: silverwaleed
Date: July 13, 2005 at 17:27:56 Pacific
Reply:

jam's comment about a radeon 9250 being $129 is wrong, here where I live its $199

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Response Number 21
Name: Sabertooth
Date: July 13, 2005 at 17:47:40 Pacific
Reply:

I don't like Bush either, but seriously, what do we expect from someone who in the past ran three oil companies aground ?

If you ask me, the Bush administration can be likened to a mad man terrorizing city streets in an armored tank. You either immediately disarm the tank to stop him from doing more damage or wait till he permanently wrecks the tank, by which time too much destruction may unfortunately have been done, BTW I am not a democrat either.

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Response Number 22
Name: Rich Taylor
Date: July 14, 2005 at 09:11:01 Pacific
Reply:

I am sure Heropyscho feels a lot better, now that he got that out of his system. Heropyscho, Jam, and Sabertooth are probably the 3 best posters on this forum (I read EVERYTHING they posts figuring that I will learn something in the process) but the political rantings don't belong in this forum. BTW, I just love when someone adds an addendum at the end like "I am not a Democrat either", ya, and I'm Martha Stewart.


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Response Number 23
Name: beosuser
Date: July 14, 2005 at 09:58:21 Pacific
Reply:

btw, who are the left wing nuts? Everyone keeps mentioning them and I only see right wing nuts all over the places in power.


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Response Number 24
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 14, 2005 at 10:45:42 Pacific
Reply:

"political rantings don't belong in this forum."

Very true.

"BTW, I just love when someone adds an addendum at the end like "I am not a Democrat either"

That would be a political comment, wouldn't it? :-)

How I voted for presidents...

1992 Bush Sr.
1996 Clinton
2000 Nader (Protest of two horrible candidates)
2004 Kerry (Not in favor of Kerry, but "Anyone but Bush, Jr.")

Voted virtually equally between R & D in all other elections, maybe more Republican only because in my state (Virginia), Republicans often run unopposed.

"btw, who are the left wing nuts?"

Ted Kennedy, Al Franken, etc.

"I only see right wing nuts all over the places in power."

That's because Democrats can't win elections to save their lives. Come on, they nominated Kerry! Talk about lacking charisma! LOL...

"Republicans in Congress are moving to ratify a constitutional amendment to ban flag burning, thus ending the Iraq insurgency."


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Response Number 25
Name: beosuser
Date: July 14, 2005 at 12:02:32 Pacific
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"Ted Kennedy, Al Franken, etc"

Well, I would say sen kennedy has much less power than lets say paul wolfowitz and karl rove, and rupert murdok and his news networks full of right wing nut are more powerful than al franken, which is from a very small lonely crowd. I mean, the left wing nuts are not remotely proportional to the might of the right wing nuts in power, in the media, etc.


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Response Number 26
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 14, 2005 at 13:33:06 Pacific
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Why do you think Republicans are winning so many elections?

They're organized, unified, and have significantly more funding.

The liberal movement is comprised of small factions dedicated to particular issues...Greenpeace, the ACLU, NAACP, etc. They're also not nearly as well funded, and they're not coordinating together as an overall liberal movement like the conservatives are. Traditionally, their issues get played up in media - newsreporting, ideas presented in music, movies, books, etc.

"Republicans in Congress are moving to ratify a constitutional amendment to ban flag burning, thus ending the Iraq insurgency."


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Response Number 27
Name: beosuser
Date: July 14, 2005 at 18:30:16 Pacific
Reply:

Yes, republicans and the "conservatives" are more united and coordinated in their efforts to divide, and turn the US back to the middle ages in all aspects. And besides, i believe the republicans are more funded 'cause they take checks from anybody, unlike the liberals.


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Response Number 28
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 14, 2005 at 18:58:39 Pacific
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"Yes, republicans and the "conservatives" are more united and coordinated in their efforts to divide..."

You're fooling yourself. Both extremes are dividing our country. Difference is the Republicans are winning the battles. It's the moderate majority however that's being ignored.

"And besides, i believe the republicans are more funded 'cause they take checks from anybody, unlike the liberals."

Check campaign finance sources of the Democratic party. You'll be surprised where they're getting money.

"Pat Buchanan, Bob Novak, and G. Gordon Liddy don't like Mark Felt. Mark Felt is truly a great man."


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Response Number 29
Name: beosuser
Date: July 14, 2005 at 19:39:33 Pacific
Reply:

Yes, republicans and the "conservatives" are more united and coordinated in their efforts to divide, and turn the US back to the middle ages in all aspects. And besides, i believe the republicans are more funded 'cause they take checks from anybody, unlike the liberals.


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Response Number 30
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 14, 2005 at 20:14:44 Pacific
Reply:

I must be drunk! *Rubbing eyes*

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