Okay i wannta get a good graphic card that can run CS Soruce and Half 2 the thing is that i have a AGP 2x and a 4x slot which is good i hear i also have boring PCi slots do u guys have any suggestions on what type and what cards i should get with a price at the end of ur post thank you and have a nice day

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It would help if we knew the make/model of your motherboard. I assume the AGP 2x/4x slot is 1.5v?

As for helping you select a video card, we'd also need to know the speed of your CPU & RAM. That way we could match the card to your system specs.

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x4 is a bit old now i think u mite have probs getting these games to run most AGP slot are 8x now the now tech is pciE x16

AMD 64 3000+
1GB 400 DDR RAM
NFORCE 4 GA-K8NXP-SLI
X2 GEFORCE 6600 256MB

4X or 8X doesn't really matter...the performance difference is minor. And most 8X AGP cards are backwards compatible with 4X.

http://www.ertyu.org/~steven_nikkel/agpcompatibility.html

http://www.cpuplanet.com/features/article.php/30231_2117941_2

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yes but if he only has a x2 x4 motherboard its bond to be old witch means SDRAM 133 and an old CPU to slow for half 2 and CS
the card will be faster than the system and it wont use the card to it max it wont be as good as he might of fort

AMD 64 3000+
1GB 400 DDR RAM
NFORCE 4 GA-K8NXP-SLI
X2 GEFORCE 6600 256MB

What?

You might be surprised to learn that there's very little performance difference between PC133 & PC2100. And there are a lot of PC133 boards that can handle up to a 2600+ Athlon XP. Unfortunately the OP hasn't posted back with his specs, so we really can't make a viable video card suggestion until he does.

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lol! i am still using voodoo5. its a huge card, but i like it.

P3, 700MHZ, 512mb pc133.
20GB HD, voodoo 5 6000.
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okay my model mother board is AMD Athlon XP 2400+ 2000 Mhz the model name is MS-6738 Im guessin the Make/model is MSI KM2M Combo ?.... does that help ? anyways i was thinking about getting a Chaintech GeForce FX 5200 cuz source reqs a Directx9 card and 512 which i have now but ill have 1024MB = 1Gb ...? so yea its a 2.0 Ghz overclocked to like 2.1 haha never can crank it high but i heard i can push my "rig" to 2.4

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Asus A7V classic rev 1.05
Athlon XP 2100+ @ 129x17 = 2195Mhz 1.81v
768MB PC133 RAM @ 129Mhz 2-2-2
40GB 540RPM + 120GB 7200RPM HD
128MB Geforce FX5200 128bit 276/515

I don't usually recommend an FX5200 unless it's to someone who has no AGP slot, only PCI.

The Radeon 9600Pro or 9600XT would be a good choice

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I dont have a AGP8x slot tho its only 4x and 2x then my basic pci slot but why not the 5200 ?

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would this be a good card and my cpu is a AMD Athlon XP 2400+ would that fit on that board and is that easy for installation ?

Chaintech SA5500 GeForce FX5500 AGP 8X 256MB Video Card & Chaintech 7NJL6 nForce2 Ultra 400 Athlon XP/Duron SktA Motherboard Retail Bundle

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=323256-241585

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I never built a computer from scratch i.e like geting a motherboard and what not so I think its good for the price i mean a grapich card and a motherboraad for like 125 thats bad ass but why not the 5200 it wouldn't run hlf or source ? i mean shouldn't it its a Directx9 card and i meet all the requirments i just might lagg a bit cuz i got a 2.0 ghz and not 2.4

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Dude, you come here looking for advice, then don't wanna take it. I supplied a link explaining AGP. 8X AGP cards are backwards compatible with 4X, so you should have no problem, & the actual performance difference between 4X & 8X is minimal. The FX5200 is not a good card...never was, never will be. The FX5500 isn't much better. Your system has semi-reasonable specs (2400+ & 1GB RAM), unfortunately you have a crappy motherboard.

Take the time to look at this chart...look where the FX5200 is compared to the 9600Pro or XT, then tell me you still want the FX5200:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2004/10/04/vga_charts_iv/page9.html

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I do take the advice im just not good at these things but i can install them lol

but this might piss you off if u happen to read this it says that the AGP9x runs on 0.8v and the 4x runs on 1.5v so if i got the ATi Radeon 9600 XT it would work fine right considering it said its a 8x card ?

Specifications
System Requirements
Intel® Pentium® 4/III/II/Celeron™, AMD® K6/Athlon® or compatible with AGP 8X (0.8V)/4X (1.5V) slot
128MB of system memory
Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
DVD playback requires DVD drive
Interactive Program guide requires Internet connection for listing updates
Remote control receiver requires available USB port
1GHZ minimum processor speed for MPEG-2 video capture
Sound Subsystem with DirectSound® drivers

and on another note should i still get it since my RAM is a DDR 333 ? but the card said it gots 128MB of double data rate SDRAM and i know this ia a fact that SD Ram and DDR ram are two differentr types ...and your only supposed to have one type of Ram in there so should i get that card and get SD Ram too ? damn i just wannta get 1 Gb ram a f---ing card that will go in my computer and run half life 2 and cs source

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Im seriously thinking about getting the ATi All in wonder 9600 XT but its like a 3.0 vlots and my
motherboard is a
AGP 1.5v
keys 1.5v
speed 4x, 2x, 1x
voltage 1.5v

....Im so f---ing confused technology hatres me I just want a AGP card or a PCI that can run source and HALF LIFE 2 guys is it possibel to spend max $150 for a card that can play those to games ?

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You're making this WAY too difficult. It's really not worth investing TOO much in your system, it' simply not that good...I suggest you don't "waste" your money on an AIW card. Take the time to read the info at the following sites.

At the MSI website, here's what it says about your AGP slot:

• One AGP (Accelerated Graphics Port) slot.
- AGP specification compliant.
- Supports AGP 2.0 2x/4x

http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=411

OK, so now that you know your board supports AGP 2.0, you can read this:

"The keying for AGP 3.0 cards is identical to that of AGP 2.0 cards to retain backward compatibility. A motherboard that supports 8x AGP should work fine with a 1.5V (AGP 4x video card), and a motherboard that supports 1.5V (AGP 4x) video cards should work ok with a .8V video card (AGP 8x), however in the later example the video card would only work at the fastest speed the motherboard supports (AGP 4x)."

http://www.directron.com/15agpguide.html

In other words, an 8X AGP card will work on your 4X AGP board, but it will only be able to run at 4X speed.

Now here's a few cards to consider...I threw in the AIW since you mentioned it, but IMO, it's not worth the extra $80-100 unless you really want/need the added features. Keep in mind that you can get a PCI TV tuner card for less than $30.

9600Pro for about $70:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102409

9600XT for about $90:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102510

AIW 9600XT for about $170:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814102352

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yo man thanks a bunch it took 15 f---ing comments to get that info damn if said that in the beginin then it would have made it easier on my s--- lol thanks tho i appreaicate the help and i plan on getting the 9600 XT and it should run hlf2 and source consaiderin they support the directx9 feature huh ?

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