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What do you think of this Laptop

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Name: Richard Trahar
Date: March 29, 2004 at 10:19:26 Pacific
OS: Windows XP Pro SP1
CPU/Ram: Athlon 64 3200+ / 1GB DDR
Comment:

I have ordered an Acer Ferrari 3000 Laptop and will arrive tomorrow, just wondered what your opinions were of it, I thought this would a be a cool looking laptop to play decent modern games on the move, it has good connectivity and a fast processor

Been looking at lots of reviews and it seems very popular, would this run games like Call Of Duty, Colin Mcrae Rally 3 etc, I know it a DX 8.1 card but would it play games like that at 102x768 32 bit color at max detail at a decent frame rate

Here is the Laptop =)

http://global.acer.com/products/notebook/fr3000.htm

Thanks Everyone

Zero Cool

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MSI KT8 NEO
Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2.0ghz
1.0 GB DDR PC3200
2X 160 GB HDD
Hightech Excalibur Radeon 9800 Pro Iceq 128mb
( Core 425 MHz and Memory 380 MHz )



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Response Number 1
Name: Bobthearch
Date: March 29, 2004 at 10:49:39 Pacific
Reply:

Laptops are unsuitable for playing games because laptops do not have a graphics card or a real sound card. If you are determined to play the games you listed, you need to get a real computer.

That laptop won't have any problem with older games, such as Command and Conquer. Generally speaking, "integrated" or "onboard" graphics are four years behind the capability of a real component. Onboard sound sucks resources from the rest of the comptuer by as much as 14%.

It's probably mroe of an opinion, but to me games don't look as good on LCD screens either.

Furthermore, for what laptops cost, you can buy a much more powerful desktop computer. And laptops are very difficult and expensive to upgrade.

Best Luck,
Bob


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Response Number 2
Name: Richard Trahar
Date: March 29, 2004 at 11:28:16 Pacific
Reply:

This laptop has intergrated sound but has a dedicated graphics card and on some tests this laptop on 3DMark 2003 scored 1060, thats impresive for a laptop


better spec here

http://compactlaptops.com/sys/acer/3000lci.htm

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MSI KT8 NEO
Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2.0ghz
1.0 GB DDR PC3200
2X 160 GB HDD
Hightech Excalibur Radeon 9800 Pro Iceq 128mb
( Core 425 MHz and Memory 380 MHz )


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Response Number 3
Name: Richard Trahar
Date: March 29, 2004 at 11:31:15 Pacific
Reply:

Forgot to mention I am using a 15inch LCD now and it's much sharper and clearer for gaming than my crappy CRT one

LCD is now getting far more superior and popular than the ancient CRT =)

And I do have a real PC, see my sig lol =)

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MSI KT8 NEO
Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2.0ghz
1.0 GB DDR PC3200
2X 160 GB HDD
Hightech Excalibur Radeon 9800 Pro Iceq 128mb
( Core 425 MHz and Memory 380 MHz )


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Response Number 4
Name: Bobthearch
Date: March 29, 2004 at 12:15:44 Pacific
Reply:

"And I do have a real PC, see my sig lol =)"

I didn't figure those could be laptop specs. :) So you just need a laptop to play on once in a while while you're in a hotel... You'll just have to be selective as to which games you travel with. Using the lowest graphic settings, you'll be able to play some modern games. I can't comment on the specific titles you listed.

Here are test results for new high-end integrated graphic cards. Your's is too new to be included, but in general the onboards were behind even $50 real cards:

http://www6.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040211/index.html

The newest onboard graphics tested was the ATI 9100, which had pathetic test scores. Have no idea how much improved the integrated 9200 is...

"LCD is now getting far more superior and popular than the ancient CRT =)"

Can't argue with the 'popular' part of that - those things are everywhere. But the cost-to-performance ratio is still way off-kilter. For the same money as a tiny LCD, someone could buy a much larger and nicer CRT. There simply isn't an LCD screen that looks as good as a Trinitron, and the LCD costs more. Compare the prices for a 19" or 21" Trinitron to a same-size LCD... Anyway, that's not particularly relevent to a latop shopper, but 15" is ~tiny~, even compared to other laptops - wouldn't want to sit all day editing reports on that!

Here are some quotes from the test results that explain what I was trying to communicate:

"Integrated graphics chips represent the lowest level of graphics performance available in the market today. Even inexpensive add-in cards in the $50 price category play in another performance league altogether."

"we can only recommend PCs with integrated graphics with a clear conscience to users who are sure they will never play a 3D game on their PC."

That's from TomsHardware.com, the best and most trustworthy hardware site I know of.

Best Wishes,
Bob


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Response Number 5
Name: Richard Trahar
Date: March 29, 2004 at 12:51:44 Pacific
Reply:

Nice reply Bob =)

Did see also on a few sites that this laptop on 3DMark 2001 SE was hitting 7000, 8000 points

and on Call Of Duty it was hitting an average of 60-80 fps, that's awesome for a Radeon 9200 128mb =), that pretty much accurate as my Radeon 9800 Pro has an average of 160 fps on Call Of Duty

So exited to get this laptop, will benchmark it and post back ;-)

Never had a laptop before, my grandfather has a P4 one and is very fast, but has crap 16mb SIS integrated graphics so struggles on everything 3D

________________________
MSI KT8 NEO
Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2.0ghz
1.0 GB DDR PC3200
2X 160 GB HDD
Hightech Excalibur Radeon 9800 Pro Iceq 128mb
( Core 425 MHz and Memory 380 MHz )


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Response Number 6
Name: Tbird4point6LX97
Date: March 30, 2004 at 07:58:45 Pacific
Reply:

to all those think that laptops don't have good video....new dell 9100 inspiron laptop has a 128 meg radeon 9700, coupled with a 3.2 ghz P4 and 1 gig dual channel DDR400 memory...that definetly blows that right out of the water


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Response Number 7
Name: Richard Trahar
Date: March 30, 2004 at 15:01:34 Pacific
Reply:

Yes, the latest laptops coming out now are awesome, I am only 18 so can't afford top of the range laptop, picked the current one as it looks awesome, great features and very few Laptops have a Dual DVD Writer at the moment, plus I wanted some good gameing on the move and this will handle most gamnes out there with high detail, am not expecting it to run Doom 3 and Half Life 2, but games like Medal Of Honour, Need For Speed Hot Pursuit, Call Of Duty it should run very well as they did when I had an old Radeon 8500 64mb, still waiting to recieve the laptop, so will benchmark it and post back =)

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MSI KT8 NEO
Athlon 64 3200+ @ 2.0ghz
1.0 GB DDR PC3200
2X 160 GB HDD
Hightech Excalibur Radeon 9800 Pro Iceq 128mb
( Core 425 MHz and Memory 380 MHz )


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Response Number 8
Name: Baz.
Date: March 31, 2004 at 13:29:29 Pacific
Reply:

Laptops are renouded for being crap for games, been there and got the t-shirt im afraid.


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