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Name: AzNLyFe
Date: November 21, 2005 at 14:18:02 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
OS: xp home edition
CPU/Ram: 512 DDR AMD athlon 2700+
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screw it guys about the last 2 video cards does anyone think the 6800 model and 7800GTXmodel can run everquest 2 full graphics and such? dont worry about the processor im gona get a new one to run it and a gig of ram theres just no point in buying a mid-range card.


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Response Number 1
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: November 21, 2005 at 14:22:42 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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You need to do it all at the same time. Go PCI-e!

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Response Number 2
Name: AzNLyFe
Date: November 21, 2005 at 14:48:05 Pacific
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im gettin everything at the same time gig of ram PCI-E motherboard new processor and the video cards of choice here are x800pro x850pro 7800GTX 7800GT and 6800GT...which is worth the price and can it run everquest 2 high settins w/o AA/AF because i do not care much for AA/AF


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Response Number 3
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: November 21, 2005 at 14:54:55 Pacific
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It would help if you listed the prices of each.

Also, do they have 6800GS's? What price?

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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: November 21, 2005 at 15:03:24 Pacific
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You may as well list it all...CPU, board, RAM & PSU...then we can help with a video card choice.

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Response Number 5
Name: AzNLyFe
Date: November 21, 2005 at 15:11:10 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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AMD athlon 3500+ this is canadian prices by the way its about a hundered or more than american pricing. gig of corsair 1stick ram pc3200. mobo is only like 100 bucks cant remember the brand

prices as follows

-ATI Sapphire X800XL 512MB PCI Express

Price: $514.99 Cash/Debit: $499.99

-ATI X800XL 256MB AGP 8X

Price: $411.99 Cash/Debit: $399.99

-ATI/SAPPHIRE X800GT 256MB PCI-E

Price: $216.29 Cash/Debit: $209.99

-ATI/Sapphire X800Pro 256MB PCI-E

Price: $360.49 Cash/Debit: $349.99

-ATI/Sapphire X850 Pro 256mb PCIE TV/DVI

Price: $535.59 Cash/Debit: $519.99

Geforce

-eVGA N528 7800GTX PCI-E Dual DVI

Price: $669.49 Cash/Debit: $649.99

-MSI NX7800GTX-VT2D256E PCI-E VIVO

Price: $669.49 Cash/Debit: $649.99

-MSI NX7800GT-VT2D256E PCI-E VIVO

Price: $545.89 Cash/Debit: $529.99

-MSI NX6800GT TD256E SLI PCI-E DVI-I TVO

Price: $411.99 Cash/Debit: $399.99


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Response Number 6
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: November 21, 2005 at 15:37:48 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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"AMD athlon 3500+ this is canadian prices by the way its about a hundered or more than american pricing."

Get the 3000 or 3200, as you won't see much difference in performance between them and the 3500. If you want higher performance, get the 3700 since it has 1M of cache. That will make a noticeable difference.

Based on the above pricing, the 6800GT at $400 would be the best bang for the buck in NVidia. In ATI, the X800GT.

I would personally go with the 6800GT out of those. It does surpass the comparable ATI priced cards, the X800XL, in performance.

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Response Number 7
Name: AzNLyFe
Date: November 21, 2005 at 15:39:45 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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whats teh diff between ati//sapphire radeon and ati regular ati radeon


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: November 21, 2005 at 15:40:37 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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You've gotta nail the system down before selecting a video card. I don't recommend the A64 3500+...go with either the 3000+ or 3200+ Venice, or the 3700+ San Diego. As for the motherboard, the make/model/chipset are very important...a crappy board makes for a crappy system. And if you install a single 1GB stick of RAM, you won't be able to run dual channel mode...get either 2 x 512MB or 2 x 1GB. Having a power supply capable of handling the load is very important as well. When it comes to PSUs, you get what you pay for...make sure to get a decent brand name with plenty of amperage on the +12v rail...plan on spending about $75 (CDN) for a good one.

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Response Number 9
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: November 21, 2005 at 15:40:50 Pacific
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Also, make sure you get 2 sticks of memory. If you're wanting a gig, get 2x512M. Or get 2x1024 for two gigs. This will enable the dual channel memory architecture.

In motherboards, make sure it's an NForce4 Ultra or SLI chipset based board. DFI is the best quality and best overclocking brand right now.

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Response Number 10
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: November 21, 2005 at 15:43:05 Pacific
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"whats teh diff between ati//sapphire radeon and ati regular ati radeon"

One is made by ATI, one is made by Sapphire and rebadged as an ATI probably. In other words, nothing. ;-)

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Response Number 11
Name: jam
Date: November 21, 2005 at 15:44:22 Pacific
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Hey hero, when ya get a chance, I left you a PM, thanks

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Response Number 12
Name: AzNLyFe
Date: November 21, 2005 at 15:45:02 Pacific
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thx =D so 6800GT will play most games pretty well? like EQ2 doom 3 farcry?? battlefield2??? with 3000+ athlon or 3700+ athlon?


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Response Number 13
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: November 21, 2005 at 15:47:33 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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The 6800GT will play all those games wonderfully with either the 3000 or 3700.

Personally, I'd get a 3000 and wait for the X2 dual core CPU's to become cheaper and upgrade to those when the price is right. With an Nforce 4 ultra chipset board, you have that flexibility.

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Response Number 14
Name: AzNLyFe
Date: November 21, 2005 at 23:53:33 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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by the way i have yet to purchase a diff mobo any suggestions? price range around 75-100 american. and also i have a new PSU and it costed me a good 100 american roughly this SOB is a beast


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Response Number 15
Name: AzNLyFe
Date: November 22, 2005 at 00:14:51 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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AMD Athlon64 3000+ (1.8Ghz) 512Kb S939

Price: $154.49 Cash/Debit: $149.99

this a good enough processor chip correct?

ABIT AV8 8xAGP uGuru S939
ABIT AV8 powered by VIA K8T800 Pro/VT8237
Price: $175.09 Cash/Debit: $169.99
and is this a good enough mobo? not sure if its compatiable tho im not that great with hardware im more of a software guy sorry for so many questions

also for ram
DDR400 PC3200 512Mb AZEN RAM
Price: $51.49 Cash/Debit: $49.99
x2 for 1gb

im getting these prices from a store in my city www.oemexpress.com


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Response Number 16
Name: AzNLyFe
Date: November 22, 2005 at 00:40:09 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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also is the 2700+ amd athlon compatiable with that mobo i might have to use it for a couple of days while the new processor chip ships


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Response Number 17
Name: jam
Date: November 22, 2005 at 04:57:47 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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"is the 2700+ amd athlon compatiable with that mobo"

No, it's uses a different socket

"ABIT AV8 8xAGP uGuru S939...is this a good enough mobo?"

I thought you wanted a PCI-Express video card, not AGP? Get a board based on the nForce4 Ultra chipset, not the VIA chipset. Look at the DFI Infinity or DFI LANparty series.

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Response Number 18
Name: randy_s
Date: November 22, 2005 at 06:38:00 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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Just to throw a wrench in with the video card...

Zipzoomfly has the EVGA 7800GT for $319.00, it is 299.00 after rebate (yes, hero, I am taking a rebate!) :P

I believe that tigerdirect still has a combo for $399.00 which includes the same video card above and an EVGA mobo.

Zipzoomfly also has an OEM BFG 7800GT for $329.00.

Of course those are all american prices.

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Response Number 19
Name: AzNLyFe
Date: November 22, 2005 at 16:11:25 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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i just found out i can get a 7800GT for 250 canadian because my friend will get it for half off from futureshop. wicked anyways will a 3000+ athlon 64 bottleneck it? i also found a mobo its an NForce mobo with pci-express sorry im not that great at hardware. hope to god that i dont have any more questions haha


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Response Number 20
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: November 22, 2005 at 16:56:29 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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" anyways will a 3000+ athlon 64 bottleneck it?"

A bit, but you could easily overclock the 3000 so it's not. :-) These Venice cored Athlon 64's overclock like mad rather easily. I got my 3000 to 250HTT @ 2.5GHz. (Default is 200 @ 1.8GHz).

If you want to try overclocking, get a DFI NForce 4 ultra board!

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Response Number 21
Name: AzNLyFe
Date: November 22, 2005 at 17:20:34 Pacific
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doesnt it overheat more often than? i should think about getting a watercooler


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Response Number 22
Name: jam
Date: November 22, 2005 at 18:15:45 Pacific
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"doesnt it overheat more often than?"

Not as long as you have a reasonable cooling setup & you're cautious

"i should think about getting a watercooler"

IMO, it's a waste of money

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Response Number 23
Name: AzNLyFe
Date: November 22, 2005 at 18:19:59 Pacific
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ah i see....well this setup is gonna cost me a good 550 american...if it werent for that card half off i would have to pay 700 american for just 4 pieces


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Response Number 24
Name: AzNLyFe
Date: November 22, 2005 at 18:22:28 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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also my computer setup should be able to run most games decently right? i know i have one of the top video cards but i dont know if the processor is that great

amd athlon 64 3000+
geforce 7800GT
2x 512 DDR400mhz pc3200 ram
nforce 4 mobo pci-express something something
80gb hd


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Response Number 25
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: November 22, 2005 at 18:38:03 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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My Athlon 64 3000 ran 28C not overclocked. Going from 1.8GHz to 2.5GHz, my temps went to 31C. This is with stock cooling! Dangerzone for CPU's is 60C. Trust me, you're fine. :-)

Get a bigger hard drive! Look closely at the prices. I bet you spend around $60 canadian to quadruple your hard drive space.

Also, make sure it's SATA 2.0.

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Response Number 26
Name: AzNLyFe
Date: November 22, 2005 at 18:50:18 Pacific
Subject: video cards again
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i have a 160gb harddrive extra on the side basically connected to my comp and 40gb laptop lol thats why i didnt upgrade it but wats your system specs and what are ur benchmarks??? and frames in new games


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