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Name: Night
Date: June 22, 2005 at 10:31:14 Pacific
OS: WinXP Pro
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I've been looking for a good video card but on TigerDirect.ca there are name brands i've never even heard of.
Chaintech, eVGA, LeadTek, MSI Computer, PNY, XFX.
What should I stay away from and why? I can never find a video card that's nVidia GeForce or ATI Radeon (Made and Powered), it always seems to be a knock-off brand. Or am I not looking at it properly? Thanks.

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Response Number 1
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: June 22, 2005 at 11:19:26 Pacific
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I only speak for brands I've used, so don't take this as a slam on the others. I've used eVGA, Leadtek, and MSI without any issues. Most are simply creations based off of Nvidia's reference card design anyway, so most any should work fine.

Nvidia doesn't make complete cards, so you'll never find an actual Nvidia brand card, only cards made by someone else with an NVidia GPU.

ATI makes their own cards, and also sells GPU's to other vendors to make cards. ATI are better than some and worse than others, so don't feel compelled to buy an actual ATI brand card.

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Response Number 2
Name: REDneck87
Date: June 22, 2005 at 11:24:32 Pacific
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Yes, I have used many of those brands and I know that EVGA is good...I have never used an ATI card because I have never needed to. Nvidia is the best GPU out there.


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Response Number 3
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: June 22, 2005 at 11:34:38 Pacific
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"Nvidia is the best GPU out there."

Not true. ATI makes a better performing product than NVidia for the most part in sub $100 cards. Nvidia makes a better card in the $150-250 range generally speaking. Neither company is dominant at all price points at the moment.

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Response Number 4
Name: REDneck87
Date: June 22, 2005 at 11:41:16 Pacific
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"ATI makes a better performing product than NVidia for the most part in sub $100 cards"

sub 100? Those cards are for people who like starring at there desktop, not playing games, but then again this guy didn't say he was a gamer....generally I always look at cards that are in the 150$-250$ range, that is why I said what I said.....My apology:)


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Response Number 5
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: June 22, 2005 at 12:16:55 Pacific
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There are several decent gaming video cards sub $100 that will play every game out there with decent image quality and speed. The Radeon 9600 Pro comes to mind.

It's a common misperception by many people that they have to spend a lot of money to get a good gaming graphics card. Sure, a sub $100 card won't let you run at really high res, with AA and AF on, but will get the job done if you buy the right one.

Even past that, ATI is competitive with NVidia in other price points as well. The X800XL is a good card for the money compared to the similarly priced Nvidia card, as well as in the super high end cards.

There was a time when Nvidia dominated almost all price points. There was a time when ATI dominated almost all price points.

My point here is blanket statements saying Nvidia is always better or ATI for that matter is overly simplistic. The better card maker between the two changes fluidly as the prices and cards change.

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Response Number 6
Name: Kyle2
Date: June 22, 2005 at 21:40:26 Pacific
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i would just think like chaintech,eVGA, etc. are the companies who sell it. NVIDIA or ATI might have deals with these companies that allow them to sell NVIDIA products.


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Response Number 7
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: June 23, 2005 at 09:55:45 Pacific
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It's actually an interesting trend in gfx card manufacturing. ATI about 10 years ago were the #1 most profitable graphics card manufacturer, mainly because they made cards that sold well (very cheap for OEM computer builders), and only they made their cards, so they got all the profits. Nvidia went the route of being a gfx card GPU maker, and would sell their GPU's to other companies, and let them make the actual gfx card. The now dissolved 3dfx company did the same.

Nvidia by concentrating on GPU manufacturing quickly began to surpass all others in GPU performance blew all competitors away for a time, beginning with the TNT2 series. This model also helped to keep prices on their cards lower because of intercompetition between card makers using Nvidia GPU's, and helped to saturate the market since more cards could be produced this way. 3dfx at the same time decided to go the route of ATI, and bought a gfx card manufacturing company out called STI, and thereby became the sole manufacturer of their video cards. Needless to say, 3dfx got bogged down in the logistics of making the cards that they couldn't compete technologically with Nvidia, and couldn't even produce enough cards to saturate the market, and eventually was bought out by Nvidia.

ATI by that time began to realize their business model was not working, so they began to sell GPU's to card manufacturers to help saturate the market better and reduce prices on their cards, while at the same time poured money into research and development into making better GPU's. They went from a distant 3rd in performance behind 3dfx and Nvidia to #1 a few years back.

Now the new trend with both is exploring making processing units for other specific tasks, such as chipsets for motherboards, which currently Nvidia has a very comfortable lead.

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