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Name: gmax
Date: February 7, 2005 at 05:54:16 Pacific
Subject: video card for gaming
OS: XP PRO SP2
CPU/Ram: Celeron 2.0 GHz/1.5 GHz D
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I've got a Celeron 2.0 Ghz on a new Abit IS7, 1.5 Ghz DDR Ram in dual channel and I'd like to upgrade my video card (Ati Radeon 9200 Se 128 Mb)expressely for gaming... what would u suggest me to buy? Thx


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Response Number 1
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: February 7, 2005 at 06:01:41 Pacific
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The best buy for a card right now if you're looking for a lot of speed is an Nvidia 6600GT; however, your CPU is not gonna be able to push that card very well. Unless you're gonna upgrade your CPU in the next few months, it might be economically wiser to look at something along the lines of an ATI 9600 Pro or XT. Pros are going for around $100, which is half the price of a 6600GT. If you can find a 9600XT for $120ish, that's probably the best fit, but I wouldn't spend anymore than $20 or so to get an XT over a Pro.

LOL, don't you mean 1.5 *gigs* of RAM? Otherwise. your RAM pwns us! ;-)

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Response Number 2
Name: gmax
Date: February 7, 2005 at 07:02:43 Pacific
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Thanks a lot, I'll see what i can find on the market ...
PS i'll correct my info ... not 1.5 Gigahertz but Terabites ;-)


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Response Number 3
Name: knobknoster
Date: February 7, 2005 at 08:50:41 Pacific
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I say upgrade your cpu fist, to at least a pentium4, if not an Athlon XP. Celerons have given me crap before, so that's why I'm suggesting something else. And they're not great at multitasking and games, so I say go for an Athlon if you plan on playing games.
Also, nVidia cards are a better bet. I've had less problems with them than Radeons. And they seem to have greater compatability with a wider range of games.


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Response Number 4
Name: devils6889
Date: February 7, 2005 at 11:51:07 Pacific
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you dont pwn my ram. 1.5 terahertz :)

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Response Number 5
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: February 7, 2005 at 15:30:59 Pacific
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ATI cards have been doing fine with games for the last couple of years now. I'm only recommending ATI in this instance because the comparably priced Nvidia cards don't match the performance of a Radeon 9600 Pro.

Upgrading your processor is a good idea, but if you want AMD, you must change the motherboard out. If that's the case, you might as well go to an Athlon 64 since they're not much more than a good Athlon XP these days. I don't think that's wise, either, since you have a good motherboard.

Celerons don't perform as well comparatively to other CPU's, so it isn't a bad idea to look at another CPU. According to Abit's site, you can put a Prescott P4 on that motherboard.

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=19-116-171&depa=1

There are higher GHz variants of that CPU, but that's what you could do as long as your RAM is PC3200.

In your particular situation if you upgrade the CPU now, I don't see any reason to spend all that money for a motherboard, CPU, and fan when the P4 CPU's perform very well in games, and they fit your motherboard. Athlon 64's have slight edges in performance, but that P4 will outperform any Athlon XP (aside from insanely overclocked ones), and come close to Athlon 64's in games. Factor in you spend zilch on the mobo because yours will work great, it's a no brainer.

Mitch is wrong about the priority of what to upgrade. You'll gain more in performance upgrading your video card first if you're wanting better game performance. However, you should decide how soon you will upgrade your CPU. If it's any more than a year, just get the ATI 9600 Pro and be done with it, and buy a new video card when you replace the whole motherboard, CPU, and Fan later. Particularly if you plan on upgrading the CPU very soon as in the next six months, it would be wise to go ahead and invest in a higher performance video card, such as the Nvidia 6600GT.

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Response Number 6
Name: knobknoster
Date: February 8, 2005 at 06:07:15 Pacific
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I recommended upgrading the CPU first because the Celeron is a greater bottleneck than his video card. If he had something like a P4 2GHz or an Athlon XP 1800, I would say to uprade the Radeon first. Don't accuse me of having my priorities in the wrong place. I'm not a moron.


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Response Number 7
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: February 11, 2005 at 21:29:11 Pacific
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Didn't say you were a moron.

Celerons, while slower than other cpu's, are still not as slow as a 9200se.

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Response Number 8
Name: dsolom3
Date: February 14, 2005 at 09:59:47 Pacific
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PLEASE show me the link where P4 outperforms a same-rated Athlon XP (aside from stupid configrations like nForce Athlon mobo with ATI card in it)


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