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Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others

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Name: gannon416
Date: August 11, 2005 at 14:52:48 Pacific
Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others
OS: WinXP 5.1
CPU/Ram: Intel Pentium4 CPU 3.00GH

Comment:

I have been having a problem with my video for awhile now. I have a decent system setup and graphics card(which I sent back to maker for tests). but I get horrible FPS (5-10) in orgimmar when there are alot of people around, and I get about .1 FPS when I am in MC, Onyxia, or AV when lots of people are around and fighting. Sometimes the screen just freezes for a minute at a time. It is preventing me from playing any of the high end dungeons and PvP. I have updated drivers and I have also talked about this problem with alot of people who have thus far been unable to help, or tell me that everything is working right my computer just sucks... So please give me some advice, suggestions on test to run, and what to look for or what might be causing my video problem. Here are my detailed system specs, just ask if a vital peice of information is missing. Thank you!
CPU:
Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
Architecture 32-bit
Internal Clock 3.0 GHz
Internal Clock Maximum 3.0 GHz
External Clock 200.0 MHz
Socket Designation CPU 1
MultiCore 1 Processor Core
HyperThreadingTechnology Available - 2 HTT Processors per Core
Capabilities MMX, CMov, RDTSC, SSE, SSE2,PAE
Caches
Level 1 8 KB
Level 2 512 KB
Level 3

Video Card:
RADEON X700 Pro 256 AGP Driver 6.14.10.6553
Description RADEON X700 Series
Manufacturer ATI Technologies Inc.
Total Local Video Memory 258 MB
Total Local Texture Memory 258 MB
Total AGP Memory 45 MB
Memory:
Total Physical Memory 1008 MB
Free Physical Memory 673 MB
Total Pagefile Memory 2.40 GB
Free Pagefile Memory 2.11 GB
Motherboard:
Manufacturer ASUSTeK Computer Inc.
Model P4P800
Version Rev 1.xx
BIOS Vendor American Megatrends Inc.
BIOS Version 1020.002
BIOS Release Date 11/12/2004
BIOS Properties Plug and Play, Flash, AGP
AGP
Revision 3.0
Rate 4x, 8x (8x enabled)
Available Rate 0x0000000c
Selected Rate 0x00000008
Aperture Size 64 MB
Sideband Addressing supported (enabled)
Fast Write supported (enabled)
OS:
Name Microsoft Windows XP
Version 5.1.2600
PlatformId 2
Service Pack Service Pack 2 (v2.0)
Suite 256

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Response Number 1

Name: Dragon306
Date: August 11, 2005 at 15:02:05 Pacific
Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others

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the only thing i can think of is to check you heating/cooling. if some piece of hardware is overheating it could be dialing itself down to prevent damage. check your temps. also, it may simply be your internet connection if my understanding is correct in that these are online games. check both.
Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours.

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Response Number 2

Name: gannon416
Date: August 11, 2005 at 15:11:48 Pacific
Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others

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I check the temp on the CPU and it runs at about 70C Ill make a log to see what it runs at when i run some games. I have 3 case fans, so i dont know if heating will be a problem. My internet connection is fine I can download fast and my ping is constantly around 120. I have also scored very low on several benchmark programs. 3Dmark for example i scored a 2401.

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Response Number 3

Name: Custom Built
Date: August 11, 2005 at 15:47:06 Pacific
Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others

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WOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! 70C is way to hot for an idle temperature.
You need to remove your heatsink and apply a THIN layer of thermal compund on the cpu core then reseat the heatsink PROPERLY.
Is the fan on the heatsink running?

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Response Number 4

Name: gannon416
Date: August 11, 2005 at 16:12:17 Pacific
Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others

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I was wrong it idles at about 53c and when i ran a game it got up to 73c when it loaded a fairly intense area.

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Response Number 5

Name: houston1981
Date: August 11, 2005 at 16:42:53 Pacific
Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others

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What kind of net connection are you running? WOW isn't exactly graphically intensive, what is your ping times when these things happen?
AMD Athlon64 3500+
1024MB 512x2 Dual Channel Corsair TwinX
Coolermaster Wavemaster
120GB Seagate SATA HDD
Gecube X800XT Platinum
Logitch 5.1 Surround
LG 16x Dual Layer DVD
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Response Number 6

Name: gannon416
Date: August 11, 2005 at 17:02:12 Pacific
Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others

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Ping times are around 120, but the problem isnt just with wow. Benchmark programs show me bad results too. I think we might be on to something though. I checked the Hardware monitor in the Bios settings and it was running at 72c. With asus probe it shows 72-73c and never really goes above it. It gets that hot when my computer gets laggy... so im thinking there might be something restricting the CPU at 72c. Running a program that heats my CPU up i can get it to 71c. I think this magic 72c number might be why im getting bad performance. My benchmark programs also show my CPU as a weak point. What are some other things i can do to test this theory?

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Response Number 7

Name: houston1981
Date: August 11, 2005 at 17:35:30 Pacific
Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others

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I think you have narrowed it down then john, try taking the side off the case and blowing a small floor fan into it, run some intensive apps or benchmarks for a while and see if you get the same results (or you could just blow on it with your mouth but i don't think that will cut it =D )
AMD Athlon64 3500+
1024MB 512x2 Dual Channel Corsair TwinX
Coolermaster Wavemaster
120GB Seagate SATA HDD
Gecube X800XT Platinum
Logitch 5.1 Surround
LG 16x Dual Layer DVD
Countle

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Response Number 8

Name: gannon416
Date: August 11, 2005 at 19:30:42 Pacific
Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others

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I put a floor fan right next to the CPU, but it doesnt seem to phase it. It goes up to about 72 and never goes above. What are some other things i could do to cool it down?

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Response Number 9

Name: HydraFury
Date: August 11, 2005 at 21:13:43 Pacific
Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others

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Try turning off all firewalls when playing see if that helps. Also open the proper ports for the games, it might help.

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Response Number 10

Name: lowked
Date: August 12, 2005 at 13:15:15 Pacific
Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others

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72 c is way too hot. I was running into similair problems in WoW a few weeks ago, until I noticed the spikes in temperature that I would get while playing the game. All I did was took a fan off an old cpu cooler I had laying in the closet and bolted it on. It's now running at about 43 c at all times. Of course, it better, the damn thing sounds like a jet engine and runs at 6400 rpm.
Get yourself a new fan and heatsink dude, and some artic silver compound. You might want to get a kit that allows you to adjust the rpm of the fan with a knob.
Your power supply may not be able to handle all your hardware. If you have more than one hard drive plugged in, unplug the one you don't need. Unplug all the devices you don't need while playing wow.
If your running dual channel ram, make sure that it's seeded in the right slots, check your mother board manual.
http://usa.asus.com/products/mb/socket478/p4p800-mx/overview.htm
Turn off anti-aliasing and vertical sync in your graphics card settings and the wow video settings. Mess around with the graphics aperature size in the bios settings.
I know it's not your ping dude, I play on euro servers from california at a consistent 250-300 ping.
One other thing: in your
"World of Warcraft\WTF" folder, is a file named "Config.wtf". Open it with wordpad and try changing the
SET gxApi "opengl"
to
SET gxApi "direct3d"
or vise versa.
If that line isn't there, add it. And make sure you have the latest directx installed from the microsoft website.

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Response Number 11

Name: Chris-EZZI
Date: August 22, 2005 at 14:35:23 Pacific
Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others

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I bet if you only use 512MB RAM it will actually perform better. We're having trouble with these boards too, trying to find a solution is how I found this thread.
For some reason if we install more than 512MB RAM the thing lags all to hell

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Response Number 12

Name: x3570
Date: September 6, 2005 at 14:14:52 Pacific
Subject: Very low FPS. In WoW and others

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It could be becuse your AGP Aperture size is
only 64 MB . Go into your BIOS and turn the
AGP Aperture size to 256 MB .

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