ITS NOT MY VIDEO CARD. its 128 mb man. i saw it run on another system and it was perfect. i reformmated my new comp, but no help. i even swapped my sisters exact ram to do if there was a change but there was none. and im usin PS/2 ports for my mouse and keyboard. and whats up wit the reboots? it also rebooted for me when i tryed to get the win update. aluminumriot

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Dude, what are you talking about? 128mb of RAM? It says you have "kingston 512 DDR PC3200"? Sorry, the 9600SE is a crap card...it's 64-bit buswidth is hampering your gaming performance. You should have at least a 128-bit video card, & most are going to 256-bit buswidth these days. If you're having random reboot problems, it's probably related to your power supply. How many amps are on the +12v rail? If you don't know, have a look on the label on the side of the PSU...if it's less than 18 amps, my guess would be you're underpowered. Big wattage means nothing if you don't have the amperage

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*when i move the mouse around frantically, its smooth, when i use the keyboard, its smooth. but when i do them both together, it skips* I don't really understand what you are saying..did you play with some of the BIOS Settings? You might want to try to reset the CMOS Battery or update/flash it. 9600SE is a crap card but he said he used it before and it worked fine for him. Abit IS7 865PE Pentium 4 2.6ghz @ 3.2ghz eVGA GeForce FX 5900 SE

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Jam, his card has nothing to do with it dude, UT2004 runs like a dream on my MX440 ffs. It even runs in SOFTWARE MODE. Some people are like Slinkies™, not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs...

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holy crap. ok heres the deal. i have 1 stick of 512 pc3200 SYSTEM memory. my video card has 128 memory. i know for sure its not my video card because i replaced the mobo cpu and memory and thats when i started getting the problem. my video card is fine, and my old geforce 4 worked for this game also. and yes i did screw with the bios settings when i wanted it to run at 3200. now i just turned the multi to 11 and the bus to 166...for now. i was gonna turn it back when i figured out this problem. about the keyboard mouse thing, its not that the system is not good enough, its just that it skips in big intervals eveery like second or so rather then tiny skipps all the time, just as a slow machine would(thats why i got a new system). the music also skipps at time. and the reboot problem. flashing the bios. if that settin everythin back to default? cuz i can just look at my manual and set back whatever i have altered. i dont wanna risk more screwups. and i will repeat! MY VIDEO CARD IS NOT CRAP. STOP DISSIN IT. IT WORKES PERFECT. IT IS NOT MY PROBLEM. aluminumriot

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Well first, try underclocking back to 2500+ and see if that helps your rebooting problem. And if you did screw with the bios settings, try reseting the CMOS Battery(There should be a small battery on the motherboard) by taking it out for 10sec and putting it back in. Or if you think that is too risky you can flash the bios, either way should load default settings. Abit IS7 865PE Pentium 4 2.6ghz @ 3.2ghz eVGA GeForce FX 5900 SE

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i no manually changing everything back to default is less risky, but is that the same effect as what you say? aluminumriot

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Hi there Hooner, thanks for the compliment and you have yourself a great day :-) All I was doing was trying to help the guy out, some of these games are very demanding on graphics cards and memory. But since I know nothing, I'll say nothing more and will gracefully remove myself from the forum so you won't be bothered by my responses.

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dont waste my time. aluminumriot

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If you have your motherboard manual you can change the settings back to normal. Reseting the battery isn't risky, all you have to do is take it out and put it back in. To be honest reseting the battery is much easier than flashing it if you ask me Abit IS7 865PE Pentium 4 2.6ghz @ 3.2ghz eVGA GeForce FX 5900 SE

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"dont waste my time." If you're talking to me dude, what's your problem? If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, that happens sometimes. I attempted to help, but I'm sure as hell not an expert and I won't say I am one.

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sheesh calm down dude(dw226), i was impling that toward your message toward Hooner, cuz if you have a problem with him, dont post it up on this. send him a damn private message and work out your little hissy fit. now back to the TOPIC is there any possibility that there will be a major problem if i take the battery out? aluminumriot

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http://computing.net/cpus/wwwboard/forum/6832.html ive read this, and i have the same mobo, so im kinda freaked about doin it. aluminumriot

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i tryed to see if i still had that mouse and keyboard weird lag thing under 640 by...that other one. still did. sometimes this thing occurs less and sometimes more. mainly on onslaught and assault. really weird. o yeh and my game crashed again and the error message this time was UT2004 Build UT2004_Patch_[2004-05-10_17.18] OS: Windows XP 5.1 (Build: 2600) CPU: AuthenticAMD PentiumPro-class processor @ 2207 MHz with 511MB RAM Video: RADEON 9600 SERIES (6387) General protection fault! History: UObject::ProcessEvent <- (UT2K4Tab_PlayerLoginControlsOnslaught Package.UT2K4Tab_PlayerLoginControlsOnslaught, Function GUI2K4.UT2K4Tab_PlayerLoginControlsOnslaught.ButtonClicked) <- UObject::ProcessDelegate <- UGUIComponent::MouseReleased <- (GUIButton Package.GUIButton) <- UGUIController::MouseReleased <- UGUIController::NativeKeyEvent::LeftMouseClick <- UGUIController::NativeKeyEvent <- UInteractionMaster::MasterProcessKeyEvent <- UEngine::InputEvent <- UWindowsViewport::CauseInputEvent <- UWindowsViewport::UpdateInput <- UViewport::ReadInput <- AbsorbedPaused <- ULevel::Tick <- (NetMode=0) <- TickLevel <- UGameEngine::Tick <- Level Red Planet <- UpdateWorld <- MainLoop <- FMallocWindows::Free <- FMallocWindows::Realloc <- 676F4C57 0 FArray <- FArray::Realloc <- 0*2 <- FMallocWindows::Free can anyone disipher that crap? aluminumriot

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that general protection error is normal. it means you need to underclock it back to stock or lower the FSB. and that link you posted, you dont have to worry about that. his computer couldn't boot because he overclocked his cpu too far and it probably killed his cpu/mobo. taking the battery isnt risky. just take it out and put it back in. Abit IS7 865PE Pentium 4 2.6ghz @ 3.2ghz eVGA GeForce FX 5900 SE

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*"dont waste my time." If you're talking to me dude, what's your problem? If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, that happens sometimes. I attempted to help, but I'm sure as hell not an expert and I won't say I am one.* lol i thought you said you were going to gracefully remove yourself from the forum and stop posting? Abit IS7 865PE Pentium 4 2.6ghz @ 3.2ghz eVGA GeForce FX 5900 SE

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o ok, well on the subject of front side bus, how come i cant go up to 400 like my motherboard says? i have the PC3200 DDR400 memory. and would highering the multiplyer and lowering the FSB and getting the same speed be logical? and safer? and i will try that CMOS thing probably tommorrow. aluminumriot

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Your cpu needs to support 400mhz fsb not just ram.if u try cranking the fsb to 400 with a 333fsb cpu your gonna have major problems unless you have a great cooling method. you listed your cpu as being a 2500.that cpu is a 333fsb cpu and i think they also make a 266. YOUR CPU IS NOT 400FSB. "LOAD SETUP DEFAULTS IN YOUR BIOS" MSI K7n2-delta ilsr mobo AMD 2800+ 333 @2225 mhz 2x512 matched DDR 2700 WD 74gb 10000rpm sata HD nVIDIA G-Force 2 Ultra SB Live Platinum Kenwood 72X cd-rom MSI 52X24X52 CDRW

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ight ill do that. yeh it is 333 FSB. ill try it when i get home. aluminumriot

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ok, i reset the bios. then i changed the clock and nutn more. tryed the game. no help. so then i put my speed settings back to 2500. and i still get that protection error if i have my FSB at 166 and multi at 11..which is 2500. which is my CPU normal speed. whats wrong???! aluminumriot

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When you reset the BIOS, you should run through the BIOS menu after booting up & check every single setting. Default settings are NOT performance settings. They're just basic "generic" settings to enable the system to boot...they're supposed to be adjusted for your particular hardware configuration.

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ok, i reset the bios, i tryed different speeds, i formatted, i updated, i reinstalled and i STILL HAVE THE SAME KIND OF LAG IN UNREAL TOURNAMENT 2004. all other games are fine. battefield, halo, mafia. i even tryed UT2003. im not saying its choppy. its just laggy. it will skip in every second and sometimes more time, and the music will repeat for a second too. it crashes sometimes too. it happens it onslaught the most. and it will happen in the other gametypes, but not as greatly. am i the only one on earth with this problem?? is there anyone out there that can help me? this computer was bought mainly for this game. i can handle every game BUT this one. great. please. enlighten me. aluminumriot

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If thats the only game that does that then I doubt ur comp is f---ed? Maybe that game has some compatability issues with ur Hardware, hav u tried tech support with the game manufacturer? And the obvious one, is the game legit? If so take it back or try a dif copy and see what happens... -------------------- Asus P4P800S mb P4 2.4Ghz (800Mhz) 1Gb DDR 400Mhz Ram Geforce FX 5600 128mb

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i think your right dude. i got this gay copy on ebay trying to save a couple bux. i thought it was bootlegged. the cover isnt shiny. the manual is in black and white. i dont have that fancy CD holding case. i dont have the cool stickers. and the SERIAL is not printed into the cd case. its just a sticker stuck onto the manual. i no this cuz my friend has the real thing. so i think it might be my gay canadian copy thats f**ked. ill figure sumfin out. aluminumriot

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Hey how about this download the Unreal 2004 Demo and try that out, see if its laggy with the demo. If its not, then your Unreal 2004 CD is probably f**ked up Abit IS7 865PE Pentium 4 2.6ghz @ 3.2ghz eVGA GeForce FX 5900 SE

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I highly doubt it's the gaming CD...if you've gone thru all that other stuff & the game still lags, it's probably your crappy video card. Regardless of whether it's a 128mb card or not...it's still only a 64-bit card! UT2004 is simply too much for it to handle. Try running at 800x600 & turn off the "eye candy" SE = "sh*t edition"

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I still think it's got to be the hardware, since that's the only thing that changed from when the game worked well. I agree with UnR3aL - tweeking the BIOS should resolve the problem. It really sounds like an I/O problem. Does the HDD LED keep flashing (indicating HDD activity?) Here's what I'd look for next: Check out the HDD settings in BIOS - sometimes they have an enhanced mode or 32-bit mode setting. Also check in Windows if you have write caching enabled and DMA mode if available on both IDE channels. Disable caching of BIOS info (system, video). Increase your ABP apurture to 128MB at least, maybe 256MB (half system RAM). That's all I can think of - hope it helps. MadMax

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i guess i didnt make myself clear when i said its not my video card. my friend sold me this video card. i saw this game run on this video card. it was phonominal. and that demo idea is good. i tryed it before you posted it even and the demo workes perfect. and i am runnin at 1024by768. the only problem is that the music skipps frequently. i dont know why. could it be sound drivers? cuz i get an "serious error" sometimes when i boot windows and it says it could be because of drivers. but the demo runs great on 1024 by 768. no lag. not even the weird lag that i get in the full game i have. i think ill install my friends UT when i see him cuz he bought it ina store. aluminumriot

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Yeah thought so. The sound problem yeah you might need to update the sound drivers. If its onboard usually its in your Motherboard cd. also you might want to follow MadMax's advice on the bios. changing some settings might fix your sound problem. oh and b.t.w if your sound card is PCI then check if its sharing an irq with any other devices(video is o.k,). try putting it into another slot if its sharing an irq with a lot of devices. Abit IS7 865PE Pentium 4 2.6ghz @ 3.2ghz eVGA GeForce FX 5900 SE

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i got the new sound drivers from the asus site. it still skipps but not as much. this is so weird. for maddmax's response where do i find write caching and DMA in windows?and i have system bios cachable and video ram cachable disABled in bios. i have another spare soundcard. would it be nessassary to use that? aluminumriot

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actually no i didnt install the drivers. i remember. i went to 80% and said it doesnt pass the windows logo test so i exited it, and it quickly went to 100% and exited. and at the end it says its done and wants to restart. so did it install or wat? aluminumriot

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Try using a different sound card. See if the music still skips. Also in UT2k4 demo try lowering the sound quality or disable eax and see if that helps. Abit IS7 865PE Pentium 4 2.6ghz @ 3.2ghz eVGA GeForce FX 5900 SE

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alright, finally some progress. i changed the sound card. crappier one:-( but it worx. the sound dont skip anymore and the game runs like its supposed to. thats great. only one more problem. i realized its not ONLY unreal. all my 3d games blue screen(they used to reboot but i set it not to). how do i fix this? wat would cause this? aluminumriot

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and sometimes i get a blue screen that has that long message. and says Stop: 0X0000008E (0XC000000S, 0XF7C415D8, 0XB2526BDC, 0X00000000 Beginning dump of physical memory Physical memory dump complete gah whats all this crap? aluminumriot

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Disabling EAX is probably a good idea if you need all the performance you can get. In some cases, EAX can decrease your overall performance by as much as 30%(AH!) depending on what version of EAX you have.

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i dont have EAX enabled. just 3d audio. aluminumriot

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after many days and many hours of tests and questions, i finally figured this s--- out. The sound card fixed unreal. and lock ups were happening because of BAD memory. i tested it wit the MEM program and it came up wit a s---load of errors. i tested my sisters memory with my comp and everything worx honkie dorrie. i just bought that memory too. now with no money, and i dont think i can return it, i dont know what to do. ill figure it out. thanx everyone for all your help everyone!! appreciate it! where i bought that memory. beware. http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=80098-2 aluminumriot

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Kingston has a lifetime warranty...take it back...if the store won't replace it, e-mail Kingston...they'll set you up with an RMA number. Simply ship it back to Kingston & they'll ship you a new one, but it make take a couple of weeks.

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thanx ill try that. aluminumriot

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The truth is that all that crap won't help. You either have a conflict somewhere or you are running some type of anti-spyware program or something that is running in the process in the background. Check your processes when the thing gets choppy and see where the cpu is working. Go from there. If it is not working with any other game, then you have issues that are not directly connected to your video card. As for your mouse and keyboard, I would borrow your friends and see it the problem is still there, if it is, then you have a motherboard issue, take it back it may be bad. You guys are complicating the **** out of something so simple. It worked before, now it doesn't. The only real changes were in the board and cpu... By the way when you put the old Video Card in did it work?...I haven't had the time to read evert thread..got tired after the bickering of some people. This is what I would do: -Try it with a different keyboard and mouse -Try it with the old video card -Take the motherboard back to the store, throw it to the guy behind the counter and tell him you want a new one -Test your CPU in your friends PC Have fun dude. I am using a P4 2.4 533Mhz - on an Intel 845GBV with 1GB DDR RAM and an ATI Radeon 8500 128MB DDR and serial HDs. The thing runs great!!!!

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well i did resolve my conflict if u read the end of the posts...thanx anyway. i bought everything online. everything works. and this IS the same video card ive been usin for my old comp. thanx but life has been restored....for now aluminumriot

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I am running a Radeon 9000 (64mb) and my Unreal Tournament 2004 is running fine. I think it could be your keyboard or mouse.

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i fixed my keyboard mouse problem. if u read the whole post u would know. thanx anyways. aluminumriot

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Im having this problem RIGHT NOW in fact! and i didnt have this problem... yesterday and its the same CPU. Im using a 9600 atlantis sapphire (not SE) and just yesterday it was perfectly smooth. Now it works, but it skips randomly... all my other games work fine... I just updated my video drivers... could that be the problem?

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i got the new 4.6 drivers from the site. what did you change to make it suck? AMD Athlon XP *barton* 3200+ Asus A7N8X-X Kingston PC3200 512 DDR ATI Radeon 9600SE 40 GIG Western Digital 7200 RPM 20 GIG Maxtor 5400 RPM X-Dreamer II

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