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Name: arkain
Date: April 25, 2007 at 13:38:20 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
OS: Intel Pentium 4 3.00GHz
CPU/Ram: 512 MB DDR Ram
Model/Manufacturer: Dell Dimension 8300
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My PC Specs:

Dell Dimension 8300
Intel P4 3.0 GHz
512 MB DDR Ram
Nvidia GeForce 128 MB FX5200 (AGP)

I want to upgrade my PC, thiking of increasing RAM to 1GB and the video card is where I am divided.

I need some help as to which one would work best on my computer because I really want to play some of the new games out in the market.

Radeon x1950? Geforce 7800? Any other??



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Response Number 1
Name: pgckkwvdzm
Date: April 25, 2007 at 13:47:27 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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Radeon x1950 PRO you mean? Get that if they don't have the x1950xt in AGP. Also don't get the 256MB versions.


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Response Number 2
Name: arkain
Date: April 25, 2007 at 13:50:37 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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I am thinking I might need a new power supply and maybe a bigger fan, anyone know how much that endeavor will cost me?


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Response Number 3
Name: pgckkwvdzm
Date: April 25, 2007 at 13:52:38 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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Power supplies are not too expensive. You'll need at least a 450 watt for the Radeons.


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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: April 25, 2007 at 15:52:10 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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As long as $50-100 for a decent PSU isn't what you'd consider expensive. If you buy a generic $20 unit, you'll put your entire system at risk.


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Response Number 5
Name: arkain
Date: April 25, 2007 at 16:05:17 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
Reply: (edit)

Oh man, $300 for video card and then another $100ish for PSU, that is very expensive.

Btw, just how good will my PC become after this upgrade??


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Response Number 6
Name: TMP-Man
Date: April 25, 2007 at 18:46:58 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
Reply: (edit)

I also want to add that you may want to consider to add another 512mb or 1gb RAM to your current system for better gaming performance... Thus $100 (psu) + $200 (x1950/7800gs) and $50-100 (512/1gb DDR) isn't a good investment...

TMP-Man

Asus P5P800 PAT
P4 506 @ 4009Mhz 1.3v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 1700RPM 92MM + AS5
2GB OCZ 2-3-2-5 DDR400
120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD
Leadtek 7600 AGP 590/1600 VF700 ALCU AS5


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Response Number 7
Name: arkain
Date: April 25, 2007 at 18:50:05 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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Oh damn, this looks like its going to be quite on the pricey side. Might have to rethink my options.

Argh! I just hate how I am unable to play new games.


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: April 25, 2007 at 20:10:11 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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Then just add another 512MB RAM & get something like a 7600GS


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Response Number 9
Name: arkain
Date: April 25, 2007 at 20:11:36 Pacific
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No need of a new power supply for the 7600GS??


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Response Number 10
Name: jam
Date: April 25, 2007 at 20:54:25 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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You haven't even told us about the PSU you have now? What's the make/model, wattage, & how many amps are on the +12v rail? (see label on side of PSU)


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Response Number 11
Name: con3para
Date: April 26, 2007 at 06:52:24 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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i have two cards and two desktops
(1) 7900gtx pci-e
1GB corsair Xms
ABIT AN8.Mobo
fx55 cpu
ez cool 700w psu 12.1+ @ 20a 12.2+ @ 20a


(2) x1950 pro AGP
2GB Samsung mem
3500+ @ 2.4mhz
ABIT av8
ez cool 580w psu 12+ @ 36a
they both run all my games, il-2 1946, runs faster in agp than pci-e and you def need 2GB memory get good memory though not cheap rubbish corsair XmS i would go for AS windowsXP uses alot of memory in the back ground.


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Response Number 12
Name: arkain
Date: April 26, 2007 at 08:49:02 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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Currently I have the stock PSU I got with dell (250W)

This X1950 thing looks like its going to cost me too much, I dont think I want to spend such a hefty amount. I am willing to spend around $200-$300 CAD (maybe $350 CAD)

Whats the best deal for that amount, with PSU and Ram and everything included, if needed?


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Response Number 13
Name: pgckkwvdzm
Date: April 26, 2007 at 11:14:48 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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You need at least a x1950 PRO with 450watt PSU to run the newest games on medium. The PSU only cost under $40. Also you will want 2 GB of RAM.


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Response Number 14
Name: pgckkwvdzm
Date: April 26, 2007 at 11:25:30 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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Get this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

You never said exactly what speed RAM you need. Also I would stray away from nvidia.

Typically you can find a used x1950 PRO on ebay for >$170. Same thing with RAM.

Video cards for you:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

The x1950 PRO obviously outperforms the x1650xt.

I won't settle for anything less than the x1950xt.

What are some the the current or upcoming titles you know you need to run on max? What era of games exactly are we dealing with?


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Response Number 15
Name: arkain
Date: April 26, 2007 at 12:20:43 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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My RAM is DDR, and for which games I would like to run. I am thinking FEAR, Rainbow Six and the lot on close to high settings.

Btw, just out of curiosity, how good can x1650 handle games compared to x1950.


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Response Number 16
Name: jam
Date: April 26, 2007 at 16:08:24 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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You'll be sorry if you buy a cheapazz no-name power supply.

Here's your system specs:

http://support.dell.com/support/edo...

And here's what Tom's Hardware has to say about AGP cards:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2007/04...

And you can use this chart to compare different video cards:

http://www23.tomshardware.com/graph...

And let me repeat my 1st statement: you'll be sorry if you buy a cheapazz no-name power supply.


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Response Number 17
Name: con3para
Date: April 26, 2007 at 17:41:04 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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ok if your getting a x1950 pro and its agood card trust me i have one you will need a PSU 550watt or a 600watt 12+ @ 34 or above or the video card wont run i know ive just bought one had a 480watt psu and it didnt work its not the watts you want its the 12+ RAIL @ 30
is what ur looking for


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Response Number 18
Name: pgckkwvdzm
Date: April 26, 2007 at 19:47:53 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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Get this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...

It runs the x1950 PRO. Its cheap but it will last for years and has dual +12 rails. Its what I use. 550 watts not really needed for any graphics card.


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Response Number 19
Name: arkain
Date: April 27, 2007 at 11:09:24 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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The link for the PSU isnt working.
Btw I was thinking of getting the X1650 XT
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applicati...

What do you guys recommend as the PSU for this one?


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Response Number 20
Name: pgckkwvdzm
Date: April 27, 2007 at 13:46:41 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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Well hmm don't spend over $50 on PSU because the next time you will need to buy another PSU this technology will be outdated and you'll be spending the $xxx on an entirely new setup.


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Response Number 21
Name: irishdef
Date: May 7, 2007 at 16:19:43 Pacific
Subject: Should I buy this AGP Card??
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One site , its the best , most relible site ever i think , try it , i got my ATI x800 GTO for cheap :S

http://www.komplett.com/


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