i dissided to give my PC the last agp g/c upgrade. i was going to build a new duo core system but cash is a bit tight at the moment. got a short list of two. 1...radeon HD 3850 2...X1950Pro i would really like to go for the 3850 as its reputed to be the most powerful agp g/c around at the moment.+ dx10.+ ps 4.1 but my question is..would my current system run it??. and the X1950Pro because it just seems a good all rounder for not alot of cash. opinions please. or if anybody would like to name some other good cards..feel free. i have a 600w psu vista ultimate/sp1 120gb hdd plextor dvd-r pioneer dvd r Abit NF7-S V2.0 Mobo, xp2500 mobile @ 200x11/1.575v, 2X512 crucial Pc3200, MSI X800 Pro-TD256 AGP 256M PA9C-42CU cooper

It's not worth it. The cards you're considering sell for between $120-150. For about $200 (after rebates), you could get an A64 X2 5000+, AMD 690G mboard, 2GB DDR2-800, GeForce 9600GSO. You wouldn't be able to run all your IDE devices (assuming your HDD is PATA) but there's really no need for two optical drives anyway. Or you could build a S939 system for even less. It would trump your socket A system, it supports PCI-e & you'd be able to use your old RAM, HDD, optical drives. Foxconn nForce4 Ultra mboard - $35 AMD Athlon 64 3700+ - $30 Cooler Master AMD64 3700+ CPU Fan - $9 ASUS GeForce 9600 GSO 384MB 192-bit GDDR3 - $55 (after rebate) This combination should easily overclock to 2.75GHz. And for another $20-25 (after rebate), you could get 2GB DDR400 from Frys.com. So for about the same price as a high end AGP card, you'd have a much better system. Then you could either part out your old system or keep it for a backup. "If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions" - Jules Winnfield (Samuel L. Jackson) in Pulp Fiction

thanks jam.. I'm trying to find the same products hear, in the UK. not having much luck. because i just went throu the check out process and the mobo came to $83.99...should be yeeeeeks not geeks ;-/ vista ultimate/sp1 120gb hdd plextor dvd-r pioneer dvd r Abit NF7-S V2.0 Mobo, xp2500 mobile @ 200x11/1.575v, 2X512 crucial Pc3200, MSI X800 Pro-TD256 AGP 256M PA9C-42CU cooper

Have you looked at: http://www.ebuyer.com http://www.aria.co.uk http://www.cclonline.com http://www.microdirect.co.uk/home.aspx

iv had a look at the first two......ill check the others. vista ultimate/sp1 120gb hdd plextor dvd-r pioneer dvd r Abit NF7-S V2.0 Mobo, xp2500 mobile @ 200x11/1.575v, 2X512 crucial Pc3200, MSI X800 Pro-TD256 AGP 256M PA9C-42CU cooper

closest cpu http://www.microdirect.co.uk/(37497... thats as good as i can do : -( I'm trying to find the exact same products as jam quoited. but its not happening. huge favor......if you have time came you have a look on the above sites and find compatible mobo/cpu/ and g/c for me.......while I'm up for it :-) thanks for the links itguru vista ultimate/sp1 120gb hdd plextor dvd-r pioneer dvd r Abit NF7-S V2.0 Mobo, xp2500 mobile @ 200x11/1.575v, 2X512 crucial Pc3200, MSI X800 Pro-TD256 AGP 256M PA9C-42CU cooper

sorry, I thought you were in the US. I picked the 3700+ (San Diego) deliberately because it was probably the hottest single core S939 A64 there was. It has 1MB L2 cache plus it overclocks extremely well. The fact that you're in the UK changes everything. How about setting your sights a little lower for the AGP card? http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Comp... "If my answers frighten you then you should cease asking scary questions" - Jules Winnfield (Samuel L. Jackson) in Pulp Fiction