Quad Vs. Duo

Micro-star international / MS-7392
July 17, 2009 at 16:01:59
Specs: Windows Vista 62bit, 2.493 GHz / 4094 MB
Should i buy Quad Core? I know how much they cost. I seen alot of topic talking about economic to better buy Dual core because you can overclock it too 4.0 ghz. games FOR NOW only support two cores, only some don't, some need 4 cores. Right now i got E5200 OverClocked at 4.0 Ghz with 45-49 Temp, but thats another story. But thing is those topic were year old. I think now its time to move on to Quad Core. Question is Should I?

Motherboard is: MSI P31 Neo V2. Its Quad Core supported

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July 17, 2009 at 18:16:43
"Right now i got E5200 OverClocked at 4.0 Ghz with 45-49 Temp"

I don't believe it! I tried to help you overclock in the CPU forum a couple of weeks ago & I don't think you got it any higher than 3.3GHz & even then it wasn't stable. There's absolutely no way you're running at 4.0GHz, especially with that motherboard.

You can prove me wrong by posting some screenshots.

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July 18, 2009 at 08:39:59
Had to lower too 3.9 Ghz. On 4.0 Ghz it was to hot.





Now, back to real question. Should I buy Quad Core? Well it really doesn't matter anymore. I choose to buy Quad

Well, at least i proved I can overclock :)

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July 18, 2009 at 09:28:53
You've overclocked to 3.89Ghz & had to overvolt the hell out of the CPU to get it to run stably. Intel CPUs won't die from heatstroke, but they will die from electromigration caused by over-overvolting. In the old P4 Northwood it was called "Sudden Northwood Death Syndrome". The max safe voltage for the E5200 (according to Intel) is 1.45v...your's at 1.664v. It will not live a long life at that voltage.


And it doesn't look like you took my advice about how to overclock. Let's say you can reach 4.0GHz...which of the following would perform best & why?

1. 12.5 x 320MHz

2. 12.0 x 333MHz

3. 11.5 x 348MHz

4. 11.0 x 364MHz

5. 10.5 x 381MHz

6. 10.0 x 400MHz

Regardless, your overclocking limitation has to do with the motherboard or more specifically, the chipset the board is based on. Both the G31 northbridge & ICH7 southbridge are outdated. The southbridge is especially old (2005)...3 generations behind. The P45 / ICH10 combo is where it's at for Core 2 systems.


It would be pointless to get a quad until you get a decent motherboard. And if you were to get a decent motherboard, you would be able to make the most out of your current CPU...something like 9.5 x 410MHz instead of 12.5 x 311MHz? That's a 30%+ increase in the FSB speed. Remember, performance isn't all about the CPU.

BTW, why are you asking CPU questions in the gaming forum anyway?

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July 18, 2009 at 13:49:40
Because, Need to know which better for Gaming. Anyways am buying Quad.

1. would preform better. Right?

And when i put 1.4 V. System becomes Unstable :(

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July 18, 2009 at 14:53:36
Go right ahead and buy your quad core. When you buy a decent motherboard you'll have two good processors to choose from.

That is, if you don't fry 'em first.

"Well, at least i proved I can overclock :)"

That's not an overclock; it's a funeral pyre.


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July 18, 2009 at 15:50:21
I don't care. I know this isn't right forums to post about Overclocking. Should go to CPUs/Overclocking.

"1. would perform better. Right?"

I wanna know answer jam.

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July 18, 2009 at 17:43:54
jam already answered that question.

"It would be pointless to get a quad until you get a decent motherboard."

If there was a performance increase, you wouldn't see it. A benchmark program geared toward a 4 core cpu might but you won't.

And, we know you don't care. If you did, this discussion wouldn't be happening. Maybe you need to read the responses jam put up for you. You think he's feeding you bullshirt or do you believe it just applies to everyone else and not you?


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July 18, 2009 at 20:08:07
"would perform better. Right?"

There are several things you need to consider.

You're comparing a Core 2 Quad to a Pentium Dual Core, so it's not an "apples to apples" comparison...it's "apples to oranges". Theoretically, the C2Q is the better CPU due to it's larger L2 cache & faster FSB, not to mention 4 cores vs 2 cores.

You've never mentioned which quad you'd be getting, but let's take a look at the Q8200 which is currently the cheapest at newegg at $160. It's default speed is 2.33GHz at 1333MHz FSB. That means it's clock settings are 7 x 333MHz. What does that tell you about overclocking? With the low multipler of 7x, you'd have to crank the frequency up to approx 557MHz to equal the current clock speed of your E5200. We all know that's not gonna happen, especially with a G31 board. Even if you could get your board to run at 400MHz (which is doubtful), the max CPU clock speed for the Q8200 would be 2.8GHz. You tell me which would be better/faster...a quad at 2.8GHz or a dual at 3.9GHz? And while we're at it, can you tell me how many games and/or other programs actually take full advantage of a quad?

Your next upgrade should be a new motherboard...the CPU can wait. There's no point running a quad on your current board.

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July 18, 2009 at 20:17:14
Hey Skip, if you're still with us, did you see what happened to tommy boy over in hardware? You called it! lol


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July 18, 2009 at 22:04:38
Yeah, I followed the thread...thought it best to stay out of it.


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July 20, 2009 at 12:13:15
At some point, "bigger, badder" becomes a waste if you don't have a valid need to be bigger, badder...

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July 20, 2009 at 12:50:10
There is no "bigger, badder" here though. Only thing exzo will end up with is a quad core stuck in an outdated motherboard.


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