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Name: sterps
Date: May 29, 2006 at 00:35:03 Pacific
Subject: Problems gaming with routers
OS: Windows xp pro
CPU/Ram: AMD 2.6/ 512ddr
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Hello, i am posting on behalf of a friend.
He basically has a problem gaming online because he has 2 routers.
Games like diablo 2 and ravenshield along with somes others, i can only host, as if he hosts i cannot connect.
Games like all the Command & Conquers (except Renegade which works fine), dont even him let him connect to the online matching service (WOL). Whereas generals he cant connected to me when we try to play.
I believe this has to do with his 2 routers he has. I am at a loss of what to do, as is he. My other friends with 1 router, we can get them working.
Here is what he has:

Dynalink RTA100+ internet
Netgear WRT824 network

And he has it connected like this:

RTA 100 + is connected to the internet, netgear router is only being used as a hub, the RTA is NOT connected to the WAN port in the netgear router
it is connected to the normal computer ports.
The reason for that is because the netgear router only supports cable modem connections in the wan port.

and here are some of the ports we have been trying to get working for the C&CS:

http://strike-team.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=43072

PLEASE HELP!!!!
this is driving me up the wall, not to mention he is already stuck up there :S

any help would be appreciated

cheers


sterps



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Response Number 1
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: May 29, 2006 at 00:51:46 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

It's quite easy to verify if this has to do with there being two routers. Can't he simply use one and see if it works?

Another notes:

Make sure DHCP is disabled on the Netgear.
Make sure the Netgear does not have the same IP address for its LAN and WAN interfaces as the other router.
Make sure his computer has exceptions for the program in his software firewall if running one. May want to disable it as a troubleshooting procedure.

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Response Number 2
Name: sterps
Date: May 29, 2006 at 02:57:25 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

He said:

netgear is assigning IP's
and the dynalink is not connected to any wan port


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Response Number 3
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: May 29, 2006 at 13:20:40 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Whichever router is connected to the broadband device should be the one giving out IP's.

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Response Number 4
Name: sterps
Date: May 29, 2006 at 16:39:04 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

I really dont think its an IP problem, or else he wouldnt be able to connect to the internet, right?


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Response Number 5
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: May 29, 2006 at 20:34:00 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Not necessarily.

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Response Number 6
Name: 1stepbeyond
Date: May 30, 2006 at 04:44:12 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Hi

As hero has mentioned is the 2ndary router (now a hub)dhcp switched off & the NAT .
is he behind a NAT firewall?
most game connection problems can start with firewall, also has he forwarded the correct ports on the primary internet conecting router?
note Port Forwarding (sometimes called virtual server) NOT trigger ports.

Has he tested his game connection directly ie direct connection to the internet router via lan cable instead of 2nd router/hub?
do the games work then or still problems?


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Response Number 7
Name: sterps
Date: May 30, 2006 at 05:18:22 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

He went to port forwarding, added NAT rules (to the dynalink router) and it made no difference in connection. also is there is an easy way to open all ports (regardless of risk) for easy compatibility. I have tried opening 1 - 65534 and it had no effect.


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Response Number 8
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: May 30, 2006 at 05:36:06 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Put the server in a DMZ, but make sure you have a good software firewall enabled on the server before you do so. (No, the Windows Firewall is not enough.) Even then, it's a bad idea.

Have you done any of the following yet?

1. Removed the non internet connected router and plugged into only the router that's plugged into the internet for trouobleshooting purposes?
2. Have you ensured that DHCP in the non-internet connected router is turned off, and DHCP in the internet connected router is turned on?

If you have not done those things, I can't help you.

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Response Number 9
Name: sterps
Date: May 31, 2006 at 07:11:22 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

THis is what he said to say:

dmz didnt work... dhcp settings have been checked and are turned on on the router that is directly attached to the internet


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Response Number 10
Name: 1stepbeyond
Date: May 31, 2006 at 09:00:25 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Hi

im wondering why your m8 is using the 2nd router as a hub? has he more than 1 pc connected? just get a longer lan cable.

If not, set up the internet router and pc's with static ip addresses not dhcp!!,, may be everytime he switches on the game pc it is geting a different ip to the one set up in the router table for the game ports hence no game.

my other 10p worth , its difficult to know what he is doing / or not... post 2 why is the netgear assigning ips? it shouldnt be doing anything as Hero said.

best thing to do is write down off your other mate whose lan is working the ports he opened and setting for the dhcp
what is port 65534 for? sure you have the right ones?
c&c generals use:

TCP ports: 80, 6667, 28910, 29900, 29920

UDP ports: 4321, 27900
also theres a patch 1.7 that fixes some router port issues.

http://www.gamershell.com/news/10194.html

how the router port table should be set up see unreal for example
http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/N101145.asp

he is using NAT so dont use the port overide.

-10p.

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Response Number 11
Name: sterps
Date: June 1, 2006 at 01:49:59 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

One is needed to connect to the net and the other is needed to manage wireless lan.
The wireless router does not work as an adsl modem so the second router is needed.


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Response Number 12
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: June 1, 2006 at 05:37:55 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Actually, just an access point is needed. He doesn't need a wifi router...

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Response Number 13
Name: sterps
Date: June 3, 2006 at 06:14:22 Pacific
Reply: (edit)

Is there a way he can get it working with it?


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Response Number 14
Name: houston1981
Date: June 8, 2006 at 18:34:18 Pacific
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It would probably easier putting the internet connected router/modem into bridge mode (If available) and using the routing cababilities of the netgear, thats exactly how i now have part of my network set up at home at the moment.

Not sure if cable modem/routers can be put into a bridge mode, i know almost all adsl modems can be.
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