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PCI-e and AGP longevity
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Name: snoopy104
Date: August 5, 2004 at 05:27:16 Pacific
Subject: PCI-e and AGP longevityOS: n/aCPU/Ram: n/a |
Comment: With PCI-e on our doorsteps, I was wondering whether graphics card manufacturers will be selling just PCI-e cards soon.. Will new AGP cards still be produced in the near future or are the X800 and 6800 likely to be the last generation of top-of-the-range AGP based.. I have no plans to upgrade to PCI-e or 64-bit for the next year at least, or until 64-bit, PCI-e and BTX is available all in one package for sensible money and I was wondering how much time I had left for worthwhile upgradeability with a 32-bit system? (Not interested in AMD 64-bit for now, until AMD stop bringing out new chip configurations: Socket 754,940,939... and inhibiting upgrade potential) AMD Athlon XP2200+
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80GB Seagate SATA
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Geforce4 Ti4200 128mb
Benq FP767-12 17" 12ms
SB live 5.1 Digital
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Response Number 1
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Name: SkipCox
Date: August 5, 2004 at 12:21:08 Pacific
Subject: PCI-e and AGP longevity |
Reply: (edit)AGP will be around for a long time. It took seemingly forever to get rid of ISA headers on motherboards. Skip
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Response Number 2
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Name: heropsycho
Date: August 5, 2004 at 12:28:56 Pacific
Subject: PCI-e and AGP longevity |
Reply: (edit)I agree, although I'm doubt it will take as much time as it took ISA slots to disappear. Reason being is when ISA was around, technology advances weren't happening at nearly the pace as they are now, and gfx cards will need PCIe sooner than we needed to rid ourselves of ISA. In fact, some devices today could still run ISA without much performance degradation such as modems. When you factor in PCIe is a technology geared predominantly at gfx cards, and how we're now compelled to replace our motherboards more often than we used to, I think you'll see it happen within 3-4 years. By that time, there will be AGP cards still available, but they'll be the really low end, much like buying a PCI video card is now. MCSE, MCSA Messaging, baby!
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Response Number 3
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Name: Mechruler
Date: August 5, 2004 at 15:40:55 Pacific
Subject: PCI-e and AGP longevity |
Reply: (edit)Now, i always heard that it is not worth upgrading to 8x agp from 4x because they perform the same. Why are they making PCI-E ? BUtta My Fries
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Response Number 4
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Name: Frosty
Date: August 5, 2004 at 15:42:17 Pacific
Subject: PCI-e and AGP longevity |
Reply: (edit)Can the unreal 3 engine max out agp 8x or is this game still limited by the video card? IMO better graphics than that aren't necessary but ofcourse game companies will still invent games with even more detail and realism. Also I thought the x800xt and the 6800 ultra were it for agp so w00t that they aren't lol. Asus P4P800
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Response Number 5
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Name: SkipCox
Date: August 5, 2004 at 21:58:42 Pacific
Subject: PCI-e and AGP longevity |
Reply: (edit)Mechruler, AGP8X is the same technology as AGP1X. You can give it a kick in the butt, but that's all. Compare an old crippled woman to ISA or any other bus. Kickin' that old gal in the butt ain't gonna make her and her walker go any faster. Put her in a taxi and give the driver a good tip... Hello pci-express! Just a thought... Skip
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Response Number 6
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Name: Hooner
Date: August 6, 2004 at 03:47:38 Pacific
Subject: PCI-e and AGP longevity |
Reply: (edit)PCI-E has no benefit for video cards, but that's not what it's about, it's about all the other PCI devices. Some people are like Slinkies?, not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs...
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Response Number 7
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Name: sk3
Date: August 8, 2004 at 01:55:04 Pacific
Subject: PCI-e and AGP longevity |
Reply: (edit)damnit i got a GREAT isa usr robotics 56k modem that i cant use anymore! would it have killed motherboard makers to have at least 1 ISA slot?
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