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Name: SnakePlisskin440
Date: May 25, 2009 at 14:23:44 Pacific
OS: Windows XP Professional SP3
CPU/Ram: P4 2.0 Ghz, 1.5 GB DDR RAM
Subcategory: General
Comment:

I was browsing around and I found a Geforce 9400. It was a cheap card with no fan but...

In PCI?

Is there two types of PCI or is this the same
PCI that's been around forever?

I don't see how anyone could benefit from a
card that new on a PCI slot. Also there is no
additional power needed. It's all off the
slot.

How is this possible?

And I know it wasn't PCI Express, it was under the list of PCI cards on CompUSA.



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Response Number 1
Name: lycan20
Date: May 26, 2009 at 01:47:51 Pacific
Reply:

Well There is some computer that is still needs a PCI video cards like for example the VIA chipset. Well yes it's not dead yet they are making ways to other people to use their old computer's.

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Response Number 2
Name: SkipCox
Date: May 26, 2009 at 09:43:22 Pacific
Reply:

You mean this one?

http://www.compusa.com/applications...

Lotta money. That pci card is probably worth more than the system it's plugging in to.

Skip


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Response Number 3
Name: SnakePlisskin440
Date: May 26, 2009 at 10:54:23 Pacific
Reply:

I just didn't see how it would work. Like, a 5200 PCI yeah but a
9400? Isn't the bandwidth of PCI like, 1gb/s ? So, buying a card
like that would be pointless.

But, if there are new motherboards with no AGP or PCI E then
yeah, I guess it makes sense.



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Response Number 4
Name: jam
Date: May 26, 2009 at 11:38:44 Pacific
Reply:

"Isn't the bandwidth of PCI like, 1gb/s ?"

Only if you mean Giga-bits per second. It works out to 133MB/s (1.06Gb/s).

I see Skip posted a link to a card. I was gonna say that Sparkle seems to be going for a nitch in the market...supplying more modern GPU's for the outdated PCI & AGP formats. I think they recently released a Radeon HD4650 AGP. It's not as fast as the HD3850, but it supports DX10.


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Response Number 5
Name: SnakePlisskin440
Date: May 26, 2009 at 11:52:00 Pacific
Reply:

The HD 3850 Supports Directx 10.1. ATI has supported 10
since HD 2350. The newest was the 3870.

The thing about the Sparkle card is no fan, and there's no
other power source. How could it run efficiently?

The 5 series required one extra connection and the 6800 Ultra
required two.


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Response Number 6
Name: jam
Date: May 26, 2009 at 17:24:43 Pacific
Reply:

There *may* be such a thing, but I've never seen a standard PCI card that requires an aux power plug-in.

And I stand corrected on the DX10 comment....I don't know what I was thinking.


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Response Number 7
Name: SnakePlisskin440
Date: May 26, 2009 at 18:25:26 Pacific
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Yeah, I thought it was like, the 2600's but I looked it up and yeah the 2350 supports Directx 10.

Geforce never released a Directx 10 card in AGP.

I find that kinda odd.


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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: May 26, 2009 at 19:12:18 Pacific
Reply:

"I find that kinda odd"

I agree. I know it's probably not a huge market but I don't understand why nVidia basically handed it over to ATI.

I also don't understand why nVidia didn't come out with a PCI-e gaming card that doesn't require the 6-pin plug that could go up against the Radeon HD4670. There was a recent discussion about that topic but things got a little heated & the moderator pulled the entire thread.


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Response Number 9
Name: lycan20
Date: May 27, 2009 at 00:18:57 Pacific
Reply:

Well I think it's cool to have one. I know it's kind a expensive it's worth it than to buy another computer it self.

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Response Number 10
Name: SnakePlisskin440
Date: May 27, 2009 at 08:00:03 Pacific
Reply:

I remember reading something about trying to get newer cards to
AGP. It must be the bridge chip I am thinking about. I seen it on
the 6800.

I was wondering, what different cards from ATI are actually very
good? I keep hearing about driver issues and game issues. What
games actually don't work with ATI? Hell, even Half Life 2 EP2
recommends an ATI.


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Response Number 11
Name: lycan20
Date: May 27, 2009 at 23:43:07 Pacific
Reply:

Well there must be conflict with most their driver on the game's requirements. The didn't know how to update there drivers so that they end up making updates on their hard as well instead of downloading updated driver.

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