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Name: carpe_diem
Date: July 17, 2006 at 12:29:44 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
OS: Windows XP SP2
CPU/Ram: P4 3.2Ghz HT, 1GB Ocz DRR
Model/Manufacturer: ECS motherboard 915P-A 1.
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Hey Guyz i rlly need your help, my pc's is restarting with any game i run on it. I dont know why i thought my video card was the problem so i got the new version of the driver, but still got the same thing. I run the game play it for like 10-15 mins then woah it restarts all of the sudden. sometimes it restarts then goes to the windows boot screen and does it again. Then i thought the PC was overheating and got the side case out, put the AC at full so the whole room gets cold but still the same problem. I dont know wht to do now, any help me please ill be very thankfull.

Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT
ATX450Watts PSU
1GB Ocz DDR 400 PC3200
ECS 915P-A 1.1 800MhzFSB
PCI Xpress & AGP Xpress Board
ATI Radeon X1600 PRO 512MB DDR2
250GB HDD Western Dig.
MSI TV@Any


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Response Number 1
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 17, 2006 at 12:32:02 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

What is the make and model of your PSU?

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Response Number 2
Name: carpe_diem
Date: July 17, 2006 at 12:34:52 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

Thanks for helping man, but where can i find the model of my PSU?

Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT
ATX450Watts PSU
1GB Ocz DDR 400 PC3200
ECS 915P-A 1.1 800MhzFSB
PCI Xpress & AGP Xpress Board
ATI Radeon X1600 PRO 512MB DDR2
250GB HDD Western Dig.
MSI TV@Any


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Response Number 3
Name: carpe_diem
Date: July 17, 2006 at 12:40:52 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

I took my PC out, and was searching if it says sumthing like model or sumthing. I dunno if its right but it says Model No.: ISO 500D.

Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT
ATX450Watts PSU
1GB Ocz DDR 400 PC3200
ECS 915P-A 1.1 800MhzFSB
PCI Xpress & AGP Xpress Board
ATI Radeon X1600 PRO 512MB DDR2
250GB HDD Western Dig.
MSI TV@Any


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Response Number 4
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 17, 2006 at 13:06:27 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

Sounds generic then since the brand is not obvious.

My recommendation is replace it regardless of if its related to this or not.

Good deal on one...

http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=332357&cm_ven=dealm_site&cm_cat=deals3_2006&cm_pla=site&cm_ite=dealmac

Have you updated your video card and motherboard chipset drivers yet?

Tried loosening your memory timings?

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Response Number 5
Name: carpe_diem
Date: July 17, 2006 at 13:59:24 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

Yea but i juss bought this new PSU, cauze my old one burned out(dont ask me how cauze i dont know either), and yes i updated my video card drivers but not the motherboard drivers. I'll try doing tht, how do you loosen your memory timings. Mine is dual channel 2x512MB and you know the rest from the sig. I think my power suppply cannot handle all the stuff on my PC, I got a MSI TV@anywhere card and another network card cause i made this PC as a server, for the other computers i have.

Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT
ATX450Watts PSU
1GB Ocz DDR 400 PC3200
ECS 915P-A 1.1 800MhzFSB
PCI Xpress & AGP Xpress Board
ATI Radeon X1600 PRO 512MB DDR2
250GB HDD Western Dig.
MSI TV@Any


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Response Number 6
Name: ComputerIdiot123
Date: July 17, 2006 at 14:28:33 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

Hi

I have had that problem before with Ati.
Remove the latest ati catalyst drivers as they cause overheating. Instead use the drivers that came with your card. They are slightly older but more stable.

Let me know if that works.


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Response Number 7
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 17, 2006 at 14:44:07 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

"I'll try doing tht, how do you loosen your memory timings."

Go into your BIOS and change the various timings there.

For more information on BIOS settings, check this out:

http://www.tomshardware.com/2006/01/04/bios_from_a_to_z/

Again, you are *raising* the various latency settings for memory, not lowering them in this case to troubleshoot the issue.

"I think my power suppply cannot handle all the stuff on my PC"

I'm suspecting that may be the case, although if your 450W were good quality, it should be able to handle your components rather easily. If you just replaced the PSU, why do you not know the brand of the PSU? That's disconcerting because it sounds like someone sold you a piece of junk PSU.

PSU's are one of the most misunderstood components in a computer. You cannot judge the effectiveness of a PSU based on its wattage alone. One company's 350W can far exceed the performance of another company's 500W.

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Response Number 8
Name: jam
Date: July 17, 2006 at 15:44:26 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

Oh no...another PSU issue!

Cost is *usually* a pretty good indicator of quality. How much did the 450W unit cost & where did you get it from?


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Response Number 9
Name: carpe_diem
Date: July 17, 2006 at 19:46:21 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

I juss got the PSU 4 months ago, its a ISO ATX power supply(i dont know if its a brand name or not), I didnt buy the PSU my Bro did and it cost him like 40 bucks or sumthing. Oh yeah another thing my PC makes a loud noise when i run the game for long time tht is around 10 mins, i tried to look where it was coming from and i think its around the Processor. Is tht making any problems?
Thanks for the replys.

Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT
ATX450Watts PSU
1GB Ocz DDR 400 PC3200
ECS 915P-A 1.1 800MhzFSB
PCI Xpress & AGP Xpress Board
ATI Radeon X1600 PRO 512MB DDR2
250GB HDD Western Dig.
MSI TV@Any


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Response Number 10
Name: carpe_diem
Date: July 18, 2006 at 12:40:06 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

Sorry guyz i think i fixed the sound issue myself, :). My processor fan had a block of dust on it, i cleared it out and now its much better. Computeridiot123 i reinstalled the old driver which came with my card now lets see wht happens, and heropsycho2177 you sure tht if i update my BIOS this thing wont happen again?(Juss asking cauze im kinda scared of doing anything Major on this PC)

Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT
ATX450Watts PSU
1GB Ocz DDR 400 PC3200
ECS 915P-A 1.1 800MhzFSB
PCI Xpress & AGP Xpress Board
ATI Radeon X1600 PRO 512MB DDR2
250GB HDD Western Dig.
MSI TV@Any


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Response Number 11
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 18, 2006 at 13:12:14 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

If your PC is working fine, you don't want to raise memory latency values. However, you may want to look into lowering them to increase performance sometime, but it's not mandatory.

Honestly, if your PSU is generic, I would still replace it as preventative maintenance. If the PSU goes dead, it can mess up other components on your machine. $40 is worth the piece of mind in my opinion.

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Response Number 12
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 18, 2006 at 13:13:03 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

I would also recommend against running older drivers unless you have confirmed the newer driver is causing an issue.

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Response Number 13
Name: carpe_diem
Date: July 19, 2006 at 07:03:07 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

lol the newer one were cauzing an issue, before the restart problem i added a new HDD 160GB with the same connector as the 250 one. For few dayz i played games like i was playing before but the loading screens were kinda fast. Then the problem started to happen i thought it was Video Card Driver so i updated to a new one. Later my 160GB HDD died all of the sudden,i took tht one out then used Computeridiot123's suggestion went back to my CD driver. Now its pretty much fine, except the loading screen took long but i played BF2, HL2 EP1, and FEAR last night and it was fine.
By the way thanks to all who helped I much appreciate tht guyz. If anything happens ill rlly come here, this place is the best.

Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT
ATX450Watts PSU
1GB Ocz DDR 400 PC3200
ECS 915P-A 1.1 800MhzFSB
PCI Xpress & AGP Xpress Board
ATI Radeon X1600 PRO 512MB DDR2
250GB HDD Western Dig.
MSI TV@Any


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Response Number 14
Name: ComputerIdiot123
Date: July 19, 2006 at 08:48:22 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

Aaaaah thank yah..........


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Response Number 15
Name: heropsycho2177
Date: July 19, 2006 at 16:42:13 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

"Then the problem started to happen i thought it was Video Card Driver so i updated to a new one. Later my 160GB HDD died all of the sudden,i took tht one out then used Computeridiot123's suggestion went back to my CD driver."

Let's review...

You had issues BEFORE you updated the driver. You updated your drivers and still had issues. Your 160GB HDD died. You removed it. At that point, did you replace that drive with another? Translation: You have multiple hard drives, right? So it sounds like you have one less hard drive than before. At that point, did you test this with the new driver, or did you rollback without testing with the new driver? If you did try with the latest driver, did you try reinstalling it since there could have been corruption?

Now, go back and look at what changed in your system. I am willing to bet the real culprit is a borderline power supply. Removing the second hard drive reduced the draw on the PSU to mask the issue.

The mere fact that you had issues before you ever updated to the latest drivers alone suggests drivers have nothing to do with this aside from possible corruption since your PSU and/or hard drive were flakey when you installed them.

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Response Number 16
Name: TMP-Man
Date: July 19, 2006 at 16:49:08 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

I bought my enermax noisetaker 325 watt PSU for $39.99 locally.. It's powering p4 506 @ 4.2g 1.45v, 1gb ddr, 120gb+300gb hd, 2x optical drive, floppy drive, 3extra case fan, 3 extra usb device (game pad, printer, external 2.5mm 60g hd), 6600gt 550/1150, sb live! 5.1, and an extra network card... My system's power consumption is way above yours, yet it ran flawless for 5 months now...

TMP-Man

Asus P5P800-SE
P4 506 @ 4200Mhz 1.45v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 1700RPM 92MM + AS5
1GB Corsair 2-3-3-5 DDR400
120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD
MSI 6600GT AGP 550/1150


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Response Number 17
Name: TMP-Man
Date: July 19, 2006 at 16:51:47 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

I got the ratings for my power supply

Enermax Noisetaker EG325P-VE SFMA

+3.3 @ 24a
+5 @ 24a
+12v1 @ 16a
+12v2 @ 16a

These are written description on the power supply...

TMP-Man

Asus P5P800-SE
P4 506 @ 4200Mhz 1.45v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 1700RPM 92MM + AS5
1GB Corsair 2-3-3-5 DDR400
120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD
MSI 6600GT AGP 550/1150


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Response Number 18
Name: carpe_diem
Date: July 19, 2006 at 20:13:16 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

So you guyz ar saying tht i got ripped off again cauze of the power supply. Cauze i had a feel tht my 160 HDD is a western Dig(a known brand), and it dies like tht. DAMN STUPID PSUs now i had to sent my drives to the factory and wish it comes back early. Oh heropsycho2177 thanks for the link for the Antec PSU, i searched around some Canadian Stores here and getting the same thing for $45.99CAD and there was another one which the guy said was a good brand too cant remember the name now. I gonna get my paycheck pretty soon so im thinking of buying tht even though i got this crappy one here. If you guyz any more good brands on the PSUs tell me alright, Thanks all.I hate you my PSU.


Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT
ATX450Watts PSU
1GB Ocz DDR 400 PC3200
ECS 915P-A 1.1 800MhzFSB
PCI Xpress & AGP Xpress Board
ATI Radeon X1600 PRO 512MB DDR2
250GB HDD Western Dig.
MSI TV@Any


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Response Number 19
Name: carpe_diem
Date: July 19, 2006 at 20:20:24 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

And yes, i tested the games with the new drivers and as Computeridiot123 said they overheat your Video card, with the new driver i was getting an average of 60-65 Degrees but when i reinstalled the old one it got back to 50-53 deg., no joke tht much difference. And TMP-Man tht alot of stuff on a 325watts power supply dude, i dont know how your PC is handling all the stuff. I will say it again "I HATE YOU MY PSU". Ripped me off. I thought PSUs are supposed to juss give electricity to your PC i didnt know it was this big a problem.

Pentium 4 3.2Ghz HT
ATX450Watts PSU
1GB Ocz DDR 400 PC3200
ECS 915P-A 1.1 800MhzFSB
PCI Xpress & AGP Xpress Board
ATI Radeon X1600 PRO 512MB DDR2
250GB HDD Western Dig.
MSI TV@Any


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Response Number 20
Name: TMP-Man
Date: July 19, 2006 at 21:20:04 Pacific
Subject: PC restarts, Running Any game
Reply: (edit)

What is the 12v ratings on your power supply?

TMP-Man

Asus P5P800-SE
P4 506 @ 4200Mhz 1.45v
Thermaltake CLP0024 w/ 1700RPM 92MM + AS5
1GB Corsair 2-3-3-5 DDR400
120GB/300GB 7200RPM HD
MSI 6600GT AGP 550/1150


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